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Rehabilitation of Prisoners

: My right hon. Friend is right that things such as predictability and organisation, and teaching prisoners to organise themselves, are critical. I have been involved with the National Grid Transco scheme from the beginning, and was probably the first constituency MP to hand out certificates to graduates. I was pleased to hand out some certificates earlier this year, including one to Karen Bignall, who I suspect is the first black woman gas engineer. I was very pleased to give her a certificate.