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Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating) Order 2008

I am sure that Prudence has a part to play in all this. I am not saying that it would be better if we had to be looking for Treasury grants. My noble friend, if I can call him that, and I were in the House of Commons at a time of big Treasury grants, not under this Administration but in times gone by. I do not want to get tempted into this issue because it is too late in the afternoon, but big Treasury grants were often required in the past to make this balance. This is a happy circumstance and I am grateful to Prudence, but she has some explaining to do at the National Pensioners Convention at Blackpool as well and the Minister had better take her with him when he goes.