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Proceeding contribution from Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench) in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 12 March 2008. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill.


Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

I would never want to be seen to speak up on behalf on anyone trying to sell tobacco to those who are under age, but I am a little confused over the amendment’s wording and I would be grateful for clarification on subsection (3). I note that the proposed offence is about buying or attempting, "““to buy tobacco on behalf of the individual aged under 18””." I hope that that has been deliberate in omitting cigarette papers because there is a very particular position for young people who play musical instruments. Cigarette papers are very useful for drying the keys of flutes, clarinets, saxophones and other woodwind instruments during a concert. Apparently, they dry them better than anything else, so musicians will often slip a cigarette paper in a damp key to it get to function better. I hope that parents and, indeed, music teachers would be able to buy cigarette papers for such purposes and would not be committing an offence because it is in the interests of children’s education. Although I do not want cigarettes sold in any way to young people—we know the danger for young people in starting smoking—if they acquire a criminal record they get labelled and stigmatised later on. I have some concerns about giving to a teenager who may be at an experimental stage a criminal record that sticks on their file for life. They have a record of an offence and I am concerned about the issues involved with joining a group of people who have a criminal record. There may be an unintended adverse consequence from a proposal that is designed to stop young people getting cigarettes.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
699 c1537 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Children Disclosure of information Criminal proceedings Devolved matters Appeals Administration of justice Attorney General Courts martial Offenders Northern Ireland Protection Mentally disordered offenders Parliamentary scrutiny Military law Paedophilia Sentencing Sales Young people Tobacco Smoking Serious Fraud Office Attorney General for Northern Ireland Statutory instruments
Legislation
Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill 2006-07 to 2007-08
Link
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