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Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

My Lords, I am ever eager to ponder the wisdom of the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland. I followed what he said. All that I would say to him is—I think that he is saying the same thing—that you cannot look at subsection (4) in isolation. It has to be read in conjunction with the amendment. He will say that I am making his case for him; I do not intend to, but I understand what he is saying and I agree that we need as much clarity as possible here. The referral for sentencing guidelines will be one way in which we can do that. On Question, amendment agreed to. [Amendment No. 37 not moved.]