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Proceeding contribution from Lord Foster of Bath (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Commons on Thursday, 13 November 2008. It occurred during Adjournment debate on Internet and Video Games.


Internet and Video Games

I welcome you to the Chair, Mr. Bercow. I congratulate the Culture, Media and Sport Committee on an excellent report. I particularly commend the work of the hon. Member for Maldon and East Chelmsford (Mr. Whittingdale)—the distinguished Chairman of the Committee, as he was described by the right hon. Member for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz), who is the Chairman of the Home Affairs Committee. I also praise the Government, because they have given a thoughtful response to the CMS Committee’s report and recommendations. My only quibble was with the Committee’s brief. I would have liked the Committee to include in its deliberations internet gambling. As we have heard, there are concerns about age verification in respect of the use of social networking sites. There are also concerns about the way in which young people can access gambling sites on the internet. I understand from the Chairman of the Committee that that issue might be considered in the future. Everyone present will be well aware that there are 1.4 billion internet users worldwide. That number is growing rapidly, and the uses to which the internet can be put are increasing rapidly, particularly as broadband speeds increase. In this country, research as far back as 2007 showed that, at that time, 99 per cent. of children were accessing the internet and that 96 per cent. of children had access to a mobile phone by the age of 11. One third of those were using mobile internet access. This is a real issue for young people, so I welcome the fact that we have not only the excellent report by Dr. Tanya Byron and the action plan that followed it, but this very helpful report from the Committee. Dr. Byron asked that we"““move from a discussion about the media ‘causing’ harm to one which focuses on children and young people, what they bring to technology and how we can use our understanding of how they develop to empower them to manage risks and make the digital world safer.””" I agree with her. I accept what the Chairman of the Committee said about the importance of helping children to manage risks. To suggest that they will not access the internet would be ludicrous—they are doing so. We have to help them to manage the risks. I feel slightly disadvantaged in this debate. Your children have been referred to, Mr. Bercow. The hon. Members for Newcastle-under-Lyme (Paul Farrelly) and for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr. Hayes) referred to their children. Mine are much older than that—I have to be concerned with my grandchildren. I shall share with hon. Members one small thing that concerns me. My four-year-old grandson, Ben, came to our house recently and saw my wife’s Apple laptop. He cannot read or write, and he certainly cannot type. He had never before seen an Apple laptop computer. He started playing with it, and within two minutes, the ““Crazy Frog”” tune was playing and a ““Crazy Frog”” video was showing on the screen. When we asked him how he had accessed that, he thought that we were mad. He said, ““You must know YouTube and you must know how to access it through your favourites, Grandma.”” People of a very young age are accessing the internet, and it is crucial that we find ways of helping them to manage the risks. However, as has been pointed out, we as adults and as parents or grandparents have significant problems. The Government response to the Select Committee report refers to the UK Council for Child Internet Safety. I welcome its establishment earlier than originally planned. The response states that the Government, through the council,"““will consider how best to empower adults and children to make informed decisions. This may include: developing adults’ skills so that they feel confident about having conversations with children about online safety””." It will have to go far further than that. I applaud very much what the hon. Member for Bridgend (Mrs. Moon) has done, for example, in taking material into her local schools. I hate putting pressure on schools to do yet more, but this issue cannot be left to parents, because many parents do not and will never have the skills necessary to provide young people with the knowledge of how to manage the risks. Many issues are covered in the Select Committee report. I shall talk first about the video games industry. It is not mentioned in great depth in the report other than in respect of classification. Recently, I was quoted in The Guardian as saying:"““I hardly play any games—I’m not from that generation—but because of my job, I had to research the industry. The vast majority of my parliamentary colleagues are always wanting to ban the latest game, but they don’t know the details of the industry. Few people in this country realise how important it is to the UK economy.””" It certainly is important. The hon. Member for Wantage (Mr. Vaizey) has already referred to that. It is critically important: 26 million people in this country play video games. About half of them are female. A large number of them, far more than was expected, are older people. There are many benefits to playing video games. Mr Carrick-Davies of Childnet International said that playing video games"““improves children’s confidence, their sense of social standing””" and"““their ability to multi-task””." Even Dr. Byron, in her report, recognises the educational benefits of computer games. The video games industry is a crucial part of the UK economy. It contributes some £1 billion a year, and nearly half of that money goes into the coffers of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The industry employs 28,000 people, and we should be proud of what they have been achieving, but it does face significant challenges. Other countries—Canada, Singapore, Korea and France—offer financial help to their games industries with salary subsidies or tax credits. As a result, the UK has lost to Canada its position as the third largest producer of video games.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
482 c361-3WH 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Subjects
Children Internet Pornography Young people Violence Video games
Link
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