---

House of Lords Bill [HL]

I have an anxiety that when this debate finishes and I go outside, someone from the public who has been listening will say to me, "What was all that about?" I honestly do not know how to answer that question. I have heard different motives attributed to the Bill. Some of the supporters, who are good friends of mine, of this first amendment say that they believe in a largely elected House, as do I. Some supporters clearly believe in an all-appointed House. I do not quite understand how one Bill can square that circle.