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Proceeding contribution from Baroness Wall of New Barnet (Labour) in the House of Lords on Wednesday, 24 June 2009. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill.


Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

I, too, congratulate my noble friend Lord Layard on the rigour with which he wants apprenticeships to be specifically defined, but I question the wisdom of two areas of his Amendment 59. Subsection (2) of the proposed new clause suggests that the, ""framework must normally specify two separate qualifications"." At the end of their training, apprentices are very proud of the qualifications that they receive, which are acknowledged by employers as involving work that includes both on-the-job and off-the-job training. That suggestion would complicate things and may even devalue one of the qualifications. I also question the wisdom of subsection (3) of the proposed new clause. Hard work has been done to get NVQs the credibility that they have. To suggest that there should be a halfway house between level 1 and level 2 would devalue both levels. Some students have a hard struggle to achieve either of those levels, but they then know the value of them. Where do we start defining what should be level 1 or level 2 and what might or might not fit? From my point of view, that would be a disastrous road to go down.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
711 c1617 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Children in care Apprentices Further education Qualifications Public consultation Standards Training Vocational guidance Wales Teaching methods Sector skills councils Connexions Service Basic skills
Legislation
Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill 2008-09
Link
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