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Policing and Crime Bill

I have to say that the last opinion of the noble Baroness does not conform to my experience of people who work in the voluntary sector. Many of them, as we know, do dedicated work on salaries and income levels that many of us would find ourselves not attracted to. We have to make an estimate; we cannot be sure that the number of orders will be as forecast, or that the number of recipients taking out more than the minimum of three meetings will be as such. Clearly, the matter will have to be reviewed. As I have said, it will be reviewed as the programme comes on stream, the orders are made, and the people subject to orders have their meetings and go on to further support.