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Proceeding contribution from Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Monday, 6 July 2009. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Policing and Crime Bill.


Policing and Crime Bill

Amendments 74 and 79 are probing amendments to find out what this schedule is intended to achieve. These provisions are very similar to those relating to closure orders for anti-social behaviour and drug offences. It is particularly important that they are proportionate. I share the concerns raised by the Joint Committee on Human Rights in relation to the previous group of amendments that the Bill’s wording is pretty wide. For example, new Section 136B(8) states that, ""it does not matter whether the officer believes that the offence or offences in question have been committed or that they will be committed"." That is extraordinary wording to have in a Bill in relation to an offence. All the officer has to have is "reasonable grounds". I would like the Minister to tell us what constitutes reasonable grounds. If it does not matter whether the officer believes that the offence has been committed or will be committed, what would constitute those grounds? Amendment 79 seeks to remove the words in new Section 136D(10), ""it does not matter whether the court is satisfied that the offence or offences in question have been committed or that they will be committed"." That is incredibly wide drafting. I beg to move.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
712 c486 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Children Crime prevention Crime Alcoholic drinks Anti-social behaviour Closures Women Licensing Human trafficking Fines Protection Police Misuse Offences against children Prostitution Young people Sexual offences Sex establishments Designated public places orders
Legislation
Policing and Crime Bill 2008-09
Link
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