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Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

My Lords, my confusion is now explained in that the noble Lord, Lord Lester, is referring to 1996. The noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, was accusing me of being Chief Whip at the time. I became Chief Whip in 2002. So I suggest that the two wings of the coalition need to get their arguments co-ordinated. I have pretty well concluded what I intended to say. I have been brief, apart from interventions, which I welcome. The argument is simple. Before we cull Members of the House of Commons, there should be far greater clarity about the total membership of the House of Lords. That would not be—