Debate on bill on Tuesday, 14 March 2006, in the House of Lords.
Fraud Bill [HL]
Fraud Bill [HL]. Lords Report stage debate. New clauses considered. Concluded. Bill printed as amended (HL Bill 87).
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 679 c1107-33
- Session
- 2005-06
- Department
- Attorney General
- Legislative stage
- Report stage
- Procedure
- New clauses
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Lords chamber
- Related items
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Kingsland | 679 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful, my Lords, to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. I had thought that I had...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1112-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we return to a topic which we have debated at some length, most recently—albeit some time ...
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 679 c1112 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke at Second Reading in favour of abolishing conspiracy to defraud. In many ways, I s...
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Lord Kingsland | 679 c1111-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke on this matter, at inordinate length, during the Second Reading debate on 22 June ...
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Lord Goodhart | 679 c1109-11 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3:"After Clause 5, insert the following new clause—" ““ABOLITION OF OFFENCE OF...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1109 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 2, line 9, at end insert—" ““( ) A representation may be express o...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1107-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 2, line 6, leave out ““by words or conduct””" The noble and learned Lor...
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Lord Goodhart | 679 c1116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. Will this draft guidance be av...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1113-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, then we are in agreement on what the Law Commission said. The Law Commission recognised th...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know whether we have a date for Third Reading. If it will help noble Lords, I wil...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1132 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought that I had already sat down, so I invite the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, to withdra...
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Lord Thomas of Gresford | 679 c1132-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all your Lordships who have spoken in this debate. I can tell the noble a...
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Lord Kingsland | 679 c1125-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have received an oral assurance from the noble and learned Lord the Attorney-General tha...
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Lord McCluskey | 679 c1124-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I have been forgiven for my impertinence in coming from Scotland and speaking in th...
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Lord Ackner | 679 c1124 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may intervene before the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, speaks. I have one or two r...
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Lord Lyell of Markyate | 679 c1122-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord. Wrinkles are helpful: one should be sens...
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Lord Kingsland | 679 c1124 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have received—
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Lord Lyell of Markyate | 679 c1121-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, has said some constructive things. He introduces ...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1122 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. My brow did wrinkle—I apologis...
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Lord Goodhart | 679 c1116-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I remain concerned about this matter. Perhaps the chief problem with the offence of conspi...
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Lord Thomas of Gresford | 679 c1117-21 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4:"After Clause 13, insert the following new clause—" ““SUBSTITUTION OF SECTIO...
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Lord Monson | 679 c1116 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Lord intends to give guidance to British prosecutors with the strong...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1116 (Link to this contribution) Little, my Lords. That is an advised remark, because we have quite significant contacts with US pros...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was responding to the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland.
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Lord Kingsland | 679 c1131-2 (Link to this contribution) That is true, my Lords; on the other hand, a new factor has been introduced by a statement of the Ho...
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Lord Williams of Elvel | 679 c1131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord speaks again, I remind him that we are on Report.
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1129-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in a sense the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lyell of Markyate, is right. I shall come in a...
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Lord Kingsland | 679 c1130-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble and learned Lord sits down, I had understood, until the latter part of hi...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly was not suggesting any difference in the admissibility of evidence. The point ...
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Lord Lyell of Markyate | 679 c1131 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I may intervene before the noble and learned Lord sits down, he will not be surprised t...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1126-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, would repeal a provision t...
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Lord Lyell of Markyate | 679 c1128-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord, who is referring to the Levitt case. I h...
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Lord Goldsmith | 679 c1129 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is exactly my point. Having said that I do not, with respect, believe that the amendm...
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Lord Lyell of Markyate | 679 c1129 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord. I do not want to keep jumping up, but I ...
- Subjects
- Disclosure of information Fraud Juries ICT Sentencing Trials
- Legislation
- Fraud Bill (HL) 2005-06
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