Debate on bill on Monday, 30 October 2006, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Adonis. The answering member was Baroness Walmsley.

Education and Inspections Bill

Education and Inspections Bill. Lords third reading debate. Bill further considered on Report. Part 1 of 2 records.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 686 c13-72
Session: 2005-06
Legislative stage: Third reading; Report stage
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Education and Inspections Bill. As amended on Report (HL).
Tuesday, 24 October 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Baroness Turner of Camden | 686 c50-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: Page 28, line 11, leave out subsection (1). The noble Baroness said: My Lo...; Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 686 c47-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. I point out again that the amendment relates only to w...; Lord Adonis | 686 c46-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with great respect to the noble Baroness, that is precisely what we are talking about. The...; Lord Adonis | 686 c46 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, in paying tribute to the outstanding work of our...; Baroness Williams of Crosby | 686 c46 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I draw to the Minister’s attention that the amendment is precisely about the authorities t...; Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 686 c42-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: Page 8, leave out lines 6 to 10 and insert- ““(a) only if the authority rec...; Baroness Williams of Crosby | 686 c43-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support what my noble friend has just said. To me it is astonishing that the House has v...; Baroness Buscombe | 686 c42 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think all noble Lords will be grateful to the Minister for his response and it gives me ...; Earl of Onslow | 686 c70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Baker is making the point that this is not a convenient moment after ...; Lord Rooker | 686 c69-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a convenient moment after 6.45 pm. The noble Lord’s party has asked me to repeat thi...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c69 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move Amendment No. 12.; Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 686 c69 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his response. I say to the Conservative Benches that on ...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c69 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move Amendment No. 12.; Lord Rooker | 686 c69 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is after 6.45 pm—; Baroness Williams of Crosby | 686 c67-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the Minister. I know that he wants to get on, but I have a couple of—I prom...; Lord Adonis | 686 c67 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness said that she was making exactly the same arguments that she made on Re...; Lord Adonis | 686 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for intervening before the noble Baroness, Lady Williams. After the very nice ...; Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 686 c65-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10: After Clause 39, insert the following new clause- ““INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF ...; Lord Adonis | 686 c65 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: Page 28, line 30, at end insert- ““( ) In this section ““well-being””- (a) ...; Lord Adonis | 686 c64-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the treatment of school staff, which I take to be the noble Baroness’s concern beyond t...; Baroness Walmsley | 686 c63-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise with great pleasure to welcome this pair of amendments, along with Amendment No. 7 ...; Lord Adonis | 686 c63 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: Page 28, line 25, leave out from ““discharging”” to ““have”” in line 26 and...; Baroness Turner of Camden | 686 c60-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response but I am not entirely happy about it, and other nobl...; Lord Adonis | 686 c60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is quite commonfor schools to appoint people with multiple responsibilities, as the nob...; Lord Peston | 686 c59 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is no difficulty with a job description for remedial English teaching: it is to help...; Lord Adonis | 686 c59 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot say yes or no, because it would depend on the individual job description.; Baroness Walmsley | 686 c59 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the Minister not accept that schools can very easily implement the greater flexibilit...; Lord Adonis | 686 c57-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate the strength of feeling of my noble friends against faith schools generally. ...; Lord Peston | 686 c59 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the phrase ““genuine occupational requirement”” is precisely what I was asking the noble L...; Lord Adonis | 686 c59 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords, I will not. It is perfectly reasonable for a school to believe that pastoral duties sh...; Lord Peston | 686 c54-5 (Link to this contribution) Well, my Lords, the noble Baroness objected when I last spoke, saying that if I had not taken part i...; Baroness Buscombe | 686 c54 (Link to this contribution) Not at all, my Lords.; Lord Winston | 686 c55 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a gratuitous comment. I must emphasise that a large number of Jewish schools have a ...; Baroness Walmsley | 686 c57 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, for giving us the opportunity to de...; Bishop of Peterborough | 686 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall intervene only briefly because reference has been made to Church of England school...; Lord Avebury | 686 c54 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness tells me that she has consulted at least two of the principal trade uni...; Lord Adonis | 686 c53-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a very important point. We met our social partners with whom we discuss these matt...; Lord Avebury | 686 c53 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry, but there is a difference of opinion between us on this, because the noble Bar...; Lord Adonis | 686 c53 (Link to this contribution) Again, my Lords, that is not the case.; Lord Peston | 686 c54 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intervene subject to the approval of the noble Baroness, Lady Buscombe, whom I hope does...; Baroness Flather | 686 c52 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name down to the amendment. I have been involved in race relations since the...; Lord Avebury | 686 c53 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all I can say is that the trade unions have now said that they object strenuously.; Lord Adonis | 686 c53 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is simply not true. They were thoroughly consulted, as I shall set out in my reply.; Lord Avebury | 686 c53 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name also appears on the amendment and is attached to a letter that the noble Baroness,...; Baroness Massey of Darwen | 686 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support my noble friend’s amendment because I believe that we have created a tan...; Lord Alton of Liverpool | 686 c71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, replies, I would simply say in support of the remarks ...; Lord Rooker | 686 c71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to get involved in this. It is a matter for the business managers—and the bu...; Lord Grocott | 686 c70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I watched the first two or three minutes of these exchanges on the monitor and I thought i...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c70-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to inconvenience the House but many noble Lords present at the moment have s...; Lord Rooker | 686 c71-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if this is self-regulation we are going to make a laughing stock of ourselves. For hours, ...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c72 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with great respect, I have moved Amendment No. 12. I believe that we should proceed on tha...; Earl of Onslow | 686 c71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am inclined to put the Question to the House—and ask for a vote on it—that my noble frie...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is not quite necessary. I moved an amendment; it is for the House to decide whether I...; Lord Grocott | 686 c72 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been helpfully advised by the Clerk that the noble Lord cannot move Amendment No. 1...; Lord Waddington | 686 c70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support what has been said by my noble friend. After all, this is a matter for the House...; Baroness Walmsley | 686 c13-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: Page 1, line 5, after ““Duty”” insert ““to secure the right to a suitable e...; Earl of Onslow | 686 c21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am now going to be incredibly unpopular. I find this amendment waffle, meaningless and p...; Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 686 c21-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I could not disagree with my noble friend more. The noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, has never...; Lord Northbourne | 686 c22 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my contribution will be very short. I claim a historical association with this amendment. ...; Lord Judd | 686 c15-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I warmly applaud this amendment. We greatly appreciate the consideration the Minister has ...; Lord Adonis | 686 c16 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the House is grateful to the noble Baroness for giving us the opportunity to discuss this ...; Baroness Walmsley | 686 c17 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for his not unexpected reply, and I am grateful too to ...; Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 686 c19-21 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: Page 7, line 21, at end insert- ““(aa) state how the proposed school will p...; Lord Lucas | 686 c32 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is saying exactly what I thought he said; namely, that by making a sacrific...; Lord Lucas | 686 c31-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like my noble friend Lord Baker, the amendment is a fine set of words. If we were dealing ...; Lord Dearing | 686 c30-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by saying to the noble Lord, Lord Peston, that I respect those who take the view t...; Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 686 c32-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to go back to the beginning of this debate. When I read this amendment, I was...; Lord Peston | 686 c26 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not say that. My view is that the philosophy of the Bill goes in that direction. Not...; Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 686 c29 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the noble Lord aware—he may take reassurance from the fact—that in Scotland, as a resul...; Lord Ahmed | 686 c29-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, as I am one of the signatories of Amend...; Bishop of Rochester | 686 c26-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very glad to hear that, because the noble Lord seemed to be saying that religious sch...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c27-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. I have the highest regard for the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, th...; Lord Peston | 686 c25 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I go on to my main point, the noble Lord, Lord Alton, would do well to read the his...; Lord Winston | 686 c26 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether the noble Lord has recently visited a religious school. For example, the ...; Lord Peston | 686 c25-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was hoping that someone would intervene. I did not take part in the debates because, bei...; Bishop of Rochester | 686 c26 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must reject the allegation that all schools of a religious character are segregated.; Lord Peston | 686 c26 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not visited that school but I have visited many Jewish schools, which seem to conta...; Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 686 c22-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, thenoble Lord, Lord Sutherland of Houndwood, is a distinguished academic philosopher and o...; Baroness David | 686 c23 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the Minister tell me whether there will be a statutory definition of community cohesio...; Lord Alton of Liverpool | 686 c23-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as one of the signatories to this amendment I am happy to support the noble Lord, Lord Sut...; Lord Adonis | 686 c42 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Ofsted would report accordingly. It would give the school a very low grade on its action t...; Earl of Onslow | 686 c42 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Before the Minister sits down, can he explain what would happen if a school was top of the...; Lord Adonis | 686 c39-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that it is perfectly possible for schools, including faith schools, to promote c...; Lord Peston | 686 c38 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a feeling that my minor contribution was not understood. The point I was trying to ...; Lord Adonis | 686 c41-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is simply not correct. Where Ofsted reports unfavourably on the standards in a privat...; Lord Baker of Dorking | 686 c40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the report that the noble Lord refers to by David Bell specifically referred to inadequate...; Baroness Flather | 686 c35-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to the various views expressed about community cohesion in the d...; Baroness Walmsley | 686 c36-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Members on these Benches also support the amendments, and your Lordships will not be surpr...; Baroness Buscombe | 686 c37-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very pleased to return to this debate with an amendment that is the result of the bes...; Baroness Morris of Yardley | 686 c33-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate has been very interesting; it seems, to some extent, to have got into the righ...; Lord Northbourne | 686 c35 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Baroness sits down, may I point out for the record that existing Catholic...; Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 686 c63 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7: Page 28, line 24, at end insert- ““( ) The governing body of a maintained s...; Lord Alton of Liverpool | 686 c32 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would not like the noble Lord to leave that point on the record as it is, because I did ...; Baroness Buscombe | 686 c25 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord had taken part in earlier debates on this subject, he would know that th...; Bishop of Peterborough | 686 c22 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too support this group of amendments. They address the concern we have discussed on a nu...; Lord Adonis | 686 c38 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are debating Amendments Nos. 7, 19 and 24 separately from Amendment No. 12, the amendme...; Baroness Buscombe | 686 c68 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, has just made a speech rather similar to the one I made...; Lord Peston | 686 c55-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I may say so, that is the whole point of the amendment. The point is: will it be legal ...
Subjects: Codes of practice Admissions Community development Children's rights Community schools Catholicism Collective worship Education Faith schools Discrimination Local education authorities Muslims Standards Schools Teachers Religion Voluntary schools Community education
Legislation: Education and Inspections Bill 2005-06
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Education and Inspections Bill

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