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Debate on bill on Monday, 4 February 2008, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Darzi of Denham. The answering member was Earl Howe.

Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [HL]

Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill (HL). Lords third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Amendment 21 negatived on division (197 to 41). Bill passed with amendments and sent to the Commons. Part 2 of 2 records.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
698 c862-905 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department of Health
Legislative stage
Third reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Deposited Paper DEP2008-0413
Wednesday, 13 February 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 698 c901 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also support the push of this amendment. Sitting on the pre-scrutiny committee, I found ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 698 c900-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad to find that I am again on the same side as my noble friend Lord Jenkin of Rodin...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c903-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these are indeed complex issues. There has been considerable debate during the passage of ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 698 c904-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, begin by adding my thanks to the noble Baroness and to the noble Lord, Lord Darzi,...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 698 c905 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords. I meant the noble Baroness’s right honourable and honourable friends—I am happy to sta...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 698 c902 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, is absolutely right when she says the word of the mother ...
Earl Ferrers | 698 c902-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was getting on famously with understanding this amendment until the noble Baroness, Lady...
Baroness Barker | 698 c903 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, throughout the course of this Bill, I have undergone a remarkable educational experience. ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 698 c905 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill do now pass. I just want to say a few words of thanks to all ...
Lord Turnberg | 698 c895 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. I appreciated the seven-page letter which the noble Lord, Lord Da...
Bishop of Chester | 698 c894-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the issue in this amendment turns around the meaning, nature and understanding of the word...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 698 c896 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I assume that the basis of this amendment is that the human cells in question are lawfully...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 698 c900 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am assuming that the noble Baroness is unlikely to accept the amendment tabled by the no...
Earl Howe | 698 c900 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, whatever the Minister’s reply to this amendment, the motives of which I strongly support, ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c897-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Bill sets out a framework where to use a person’s gametes or other cells in the produc...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 698 c898-900 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 29: 29: Schedule 6, page 72, line 26, at end insert— ““The Secretary of State ...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 698 c898 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the light of those assurances, I am happy to beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amen...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 698 c883-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords on both sides of the House for their contributions to what ha...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c882-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an important debate and I am glad we have had it. Amendment No. 21 seeks to ...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 698 c882 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my comments will be extremely brief because I fully appreciate the intentions underlying t...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 698 c892-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry; I do not think that that is possible. The wording of new sub-paragraph (7) is...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 698 c891-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I read this amendment prior to the debate, I was absolutely horrified because I found...
Baroness Tonge | 698 c890-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Walton and Lord Patel, conce...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 698 c889-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this issue was not debated by the scrutiny committee and we did not debate it at Committee...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 698 c887-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 25: 25: Schedule 3, page 65, line 2, at end insert— ““Cases where consent not ...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 698 c874 (Link to this contribution) I have, my Lords. I said that we were dealing with: "““Page 58, leave out lines 11 to 13 and insert”...
Lord Winston | 698 c875-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have always had huge respect for the noble Baroness, Lady Williams. I have admired her s...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 698 c874-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with that invitation, I shall speak to an amendment that has been brought back with the de...
Baroness O'Cathain | 698 c878-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also support Amendment No. 21. On Report, I supported an entirely separate amendment, ex...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 698 c876-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the amendment laid before your Lordships today by the noble Baroness, L...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 698 c879-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke to the amendment when it was proposed on Report, and I remain of the view that I e...
Lord Turnberg | 698 c879 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to get into the pros and cons of adult versus embryonic stem cells—there are...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 698 c881-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I find myself for the first time throughout the proceedings on this Bill, and indeed on th...
Bishop of Chester | 698 c880 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment and agree with every word just spoken by the noble and learned Lor...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c870 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 18: 18: Clause 61, page 50, line 29, after ““transitional,”” insert ““saving,”...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 698 c873 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I assume that it is in order for me to reply. The noble Baroness is reading into the amend...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 698 c873 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure whether technically I can do this. I want to ask a question of the noble Bar...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 698 c873 (Link to this contribution) Amendment proposed, page 58, leave out lines 11 to 13 and insert the words printed on the Marshalled...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 698 c870-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21: 21: Schedule 2, page 58, leave out lines 11 to 13 and insert— ““(6) No lic...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 698 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe this was a question for me before I sat down so I shall respond to it if the nob...
Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 698 c873-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness mentioned the HFEA in general and my name in particular. She made a com...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c869 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 10 to 15: 10: Clause 24, page 20, line 21, leave out ““if”” 11: Clause 24,...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c868 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: 8: Clause 23, page 19, line 3, at end insert— ““( ) After that subsection i...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c869 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: 9: Clause 24, page 20, line 20, at end insert ““if”” The noble Baroness sa...
Earl Howe | 698 c869 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the noble Baroness explain what ““saving”” means in Amendment No. 18. I am not sure th...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c869 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is an excellent question and unless I get speedy assistance from the Box, I shall hav...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 698 c867 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness stood up so quickly that I did not have chance to stand up. I should li...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 698 c867 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like the Minister to comment on the difference between ordinary cases of donor co...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 698 c868 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may welcome these amendments and ask two questions. First, can she respond to a ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c868 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the notion of the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, on making materials available for families...
Bishop of Chester | 698 c866-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment, but would like to ask one question of the Minister. The amendment...
Baroness Warnock | 698 c866 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my thanks to the Minister and associate my noble friend Lady Finlay of Llandaff with...
Earl Howe | 698 c866 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for listening so carefully to the concerns expressed at earlier stage...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 698 c866 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the mover, at Report stage, of amendments both to make it a condition of the licence, a...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 698 c865 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was greatly reassured by the Minister’s statement, because it covered the main points wi...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c865-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7: 7: Clause 14, page 9, line 34, at end insert— ““(6BA) In the case of treatm...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 698 c863 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, who would determine whether embryos would be used in therapies rather than just in researc...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c863-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Walton, and the noble Lord, Lord Patel—who is not in...
Baroness Tonge | 698 c863 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Walton. The idea that stem cells should eventually be used ...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 698 c862-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: 5: Clause 11, page 8, line 21, after ““research)”” insert ““— (a)”” The no...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 698 c896-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, after consulting the Minister, it seems appropriate that I should now speak to Amendment N...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 698 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord on the Woolsack has not yet said that the debate is open for discussion.
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c869 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: 16: Clause 26, page 30, line 31, at end insert— ““( ) section 13(6BA) (inf...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 698 c867 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I entirely agree that children must be allowed to have their childhood. That is where the ...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 698 c901-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin of Roding, not least for the so...
Lord Winston | 698 c893 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it may be helpful to the House if I raise something that I did not raise in the previous d...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 698 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, has been allowed to ask a question, so it...
Baroness Barker | 698 c895 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I draw the attention of the House to one point in Amendment No. 26. I listened with great ...
Subjects
Disclosure of information Codes of practice Fertility Licensing Human embryo experiments Diseases Donors Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority Ethics IVF Parents Regulation Registration of births, deaths, marriages and civil partnerships Research Stem cells
Legislation
Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill (HL) 2007-08
Link
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