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Debate on bill and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Tuesday, 5 February 2008, in the House of Commons.

European Union (Amendment) Bill

European Union (Amendment) Bill. Committee stage third day. Amendment 228 negatived on division (168 to 357).

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
471 c878-906 
Session
2007-08
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c901 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.
William Cash | 471 c901 (Link to this contribution) I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Amendment proposed: ...
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William Cash | 471 c880 (Link to this contribution) I accept what the hon. Lady says but, if I may be allowed to say so, I do not put myself in the cate...
Mike Gapes | 471 c880 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
William Cash | 471 c880-1 (Link to this contribution) In a moment, if the hon. Gentleman will forgive me. I was just about to mention the origin of the hu...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 471 c880 (Link to this contribution) I always listen to the hon. Gentleman carefully, as what he says is important. However, although the...
William Cash | 471 c882 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. The red lines have already leaked like a sieve. I am reminded of the story of the hunting of...
William Cash | 471 c881 (Link to this contribution) It is very simple: when I was shadow Attorney-General, I proposed the repeal of the 1998 Act. I am g...
Patricia Hewitt | 471 c881 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman confirm that it is his policy, and perhaps that of his party, that Britain s...
William Cash | 471 c881-2 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to commend the right hon. Lady to people on her side of the equation; as in the earlier d...
Bob Spink | 471 c882 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the arguments put by the right hon. Member for Leicester, West (Ms He...
Philip Davies | 471 c880 (Link to this contribution) I fully support my hon. Friend's amendment, but will he expand on why it is so important? Many of my...
William Cash | 471 c880 (Link to this contribution) One of the wonderful things about this House is that one can almost guarantee that another hon. Memb...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c878-9 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment No. 217, in page 1, line 12, aft...
William Cash | 471 c878 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 84, in page 1, line 12, after 'excluding', insert—
William Cash | 471 c885 (Link to this contribution) It is not only doublethink, but—if I may, somewhat presumptuously, add a little bit to George Orwell...
James Clappison | 471 c885 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an extremely convincing case. On his point about the increasing effects of ...
William Cash | 471 c885-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is completely right; this is an evolving dynamic. New rights are being created by the...
Rob Marris | 471 c886 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that the hon. Gentleman is demonstrating the doublethink that he earlier decried, and I wi...
William Cash | 471 c886 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but the hon. Gentleman fails to understand the point of principle that I am making, whic...
William Cash | 471 c886-7 (Link to this contribution) I should get ahead a little, because others definitely want to speak. I should like to touch on how...
Mike Gapes | 471 c887 (Link to this contribution) Given that the hon. Gentleman is introducing this debate and speaking as if from the Front Bench, an...
William Cash | 471 c887-9 (Link to this contribution) As I voted against it more often than any other Member of Parliament, my answer is yes, I certainly ...
Lord Redwood | 471 c882 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for putting together and tabling so many excellent amendments, which...
William Cash | 471 c882-3 (Link to this contribution) It is the issue, and the point needs to be repeated over and over. I believe that there are Members ...
Ed Davey | 471 c883 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. I cannot tell him how much fun I have listening to him. Has he ...
William Cash | 471 c883 (Link to this contribution) The only reason Handelsgesellschaft, together with Costa and a series of other cases that I could qu...
William Cash | 471 c883 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the Liberal Democrat, because he always amuses me.
Rob Marris | 471 c884 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who is very generous and knowledgeable, as ever. He decries the...
Rob Marris | 471 c883 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
William Cash | 471 c883 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly give way to my friend—my hon. Friend.
Mike Gapes | 471 c894 (Link to this contribution) Surely the right hon. Gentleman cannot believe that the modest changes in this treaty or in the Amst...
Jim Murphy | 471 c898 (Link to this contribution) I would not wish to test your patience too much, Sir Alan, but it is absolutely certain that the hon...
Mark Francois | 471 c897 (Link to this contribution) Very briefly, the Minister has been repeatedly asked by his own Back Benchers this evening to give a...
Jim Murphy | 471 c897 (Link to this contribution) I happily give way to the hon. Gentleman; I look forward to hearing what he has to say on the social...
Jim Murphy | 471 c898 (Link to this contribution) Simply refusing to respond to such points is not an approach that will not get us through the rest o...
Mark Francois | 471 c895-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow my right hon. Friend the Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood) and I also co...
Lord Redwood | 471 c894-5 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that the hon. Gentleman tries reading the different treaties. The Single European Act was,...
Jim Murphy | 471 c897 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to have the opportunity to respond to this evening's debate, albeit relatively briefl...
Lord Redwood | 471 c894 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly right. The facts are stark. This Government have surrendered 10 times more vetoes th...
Gerald Howarth | 471 c894 (Link to this contribution) Is that not why this House and the British people should approach this treaty with the greatest scep...
Lord Redwood | 471 c894 (Link to this contribution) That is clearly the Government's position. They have shown total surrender in the negotiations over ...
Peter Bone | 471 c894 (Link to this contribution) The logic of the argument we have heard from the Labour Benches is as follows: as we have given some...
Lord Redwood | 471 c893-4 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady is a little cleverer than that: she knows that that is not the official position...
Patricia Hewitt | 471 c893 (Link to this contribution) I am following the right hon. Gentleman's points with great care, but I am puzzled that he seems to ...
Lord Redwood | 471 c892-3 (Link to this contribution) Tonight's debate, like many of these debates, is about where power should rest. It is about democrac...
Jon Trickett | 471 c890-2 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman has listened to any of the points I have made on previous days, he knows perfe...
Bob Spink | 471 c890 (Link to this contribution) Does not the hon. Gentleman accept that 13 articles of the charter derive at least partly from inter...
Peter Bone | 471 c899 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, as our time is limited because of what the Government ...
Jim Murphy | 471 c899-900 (Link to this contribution) That is a matter for the usual channels. I will look forward to tomorrow's debate to see how that is...
Denis MacShane | 471 c900 (Link to this contribution) Arguments and debates about the treaty, the charter of fundamental rights and the direction of Europ...
Jim Murphy | 471 c900 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely correct.
William Cash | 471 c901 (Link to this contribution) In the concluding moments of the debate, I should like to say that the Conservative party is complet...
Jim Murphy | 471 c900 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will be allowed three or four minutes at the end to make his points. I hope that ...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c901 (Link to this contribution) Do I understand that the hon. Gentleman wishes to seek leave to withdraw amendment No. 84?
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 471 c901 (Link to this contribution) It is customary to use those as the last words in these circumstances. I take it that they are the h...
Lord Redwood | 471 c898 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is now getting to something interesting. Is he not ashamed that there is so little time...
Jim Murphy | 471 c899 (Link to this contribution) That does not fall within the scope of the amendment. The matter has already been resolved by the Ho...
Jim Murphy | 471 c899 (Link to this contribution) Not at the moment; I shall make some progress. If the charter were removed from the scope of the Bi...
Jim Murphy | 471 c899 (Link to this contribution) We have made it clear that the charter does not create new rights, but simply records existing right...
James Clappison | 471 c899 (Link to this contribution) Is not the Minister advocating a recipe for frustration? When the UK citizen has gone through the ri...
Jim Murphy | 471 c899 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Member for Hertsmere (Mr. Clappison). Then, if the hon. Member for Welli...
William Cash | 471 c901 (Link to this contribution) I thought that I said so, Sir Alan. In the circumstances, the answer is yes.
Speaker | 471 c906 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have said that there should be no further points of order. May I ask all hon. Members who a...
Mike Gapes | 471 c881 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, but I seek clarification about where the Opposit...
William Cash | 471 c879-80 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful and honoured to be able to lead the debate on this subject. In the previous ...
Peter Bone | 471 c885 (Link to this contribution) I listened to the earlier debate, in which the Government claimed that, although these proposals wou...
William Cash | 471 c884-5 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, but the difference is that there is a way of dealing with the judgments that come out of the...
William Cash | 471 c898 (Link to this contribution) There is also a very famous poet by the name of T. S. Eliot who said:"““Human kind""Cannot bear very...
Jon Trickett | 471 c889 (Link to this contribution) I follow the hon. Member for Stone (Mr. Cash) with some trepidation. I have sympathy with some of hi...
Subjects
Human rights European Union European communities Discrimination Treaties European Court of Justice Treaty of Lisbon
Legislation
European Union (Amendment) Bill 2007-08
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