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Debate on bill on Wednesday, 4 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

European Union (Amendment) Bill

European Union (Amendment) Bill. Lords report stage first day. Part 2 of 2 records.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c219-54 
Session
2007-08
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Bach | 702 c254 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. Moved accordingly, and, on Q...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c252 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been called many things, usually in an opposite category to ““barrack-room lawyer””...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c251 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to intervene again but I am concerned that the noble Lord is suggesting that so...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c250-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I see the point that the noble Lord is trying to make, but my contention is that the would...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 702 c250 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to intervene, but the noble Lord, Lord Howell, in attempting to clarify the pre...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c250 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to detain your Lordships on a complex business. However, Standing Order 21 o...
Lord McNally | 702 c252 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is being a barrack-room lawyer on this matter. If he wants primary legislat...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c252 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, now we have moved to another Standing Order. I want to keep this calm and I do not want us...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c251-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that I behaved in a disgraceful manner. I have already said that if I made ...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c251 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I totally reject the proposition that I am trying to confuse the issues; I am trying to cl...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c248-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is not down to the Speaker. I sought to give as much clarity as possible and I will mak...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c249 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are into very deep waters here. As for your Lordships’ House, which it is absolutely ri...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c242-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: 16: Clause 6, page 2, line 39, leave out from ““Crown”” to end of line 41 ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c240-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken, particularly to those who have supp...
Lord Blackwell | 702 c245-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I suspect that I am not the only one in the House who finds it difficult to follow the twi...
Lord McNally | 702 c244-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Howell, referred to the position taken by the Liberal Democrats in an...
Lord Roper | 702 c246-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the noble Baroness agree that there is also a change between the discussions that occ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c246 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the issue that we are debating is not whether Parliament should have control but the natur...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c247-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is correct. As he would expect, I feel quite strongly about the role of you...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c238-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been, as ever, an interesting debate. I am grateful to all noble Lords who have s...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c238 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall pretend that I had not sat down in response to that because that is a rather naive...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c238 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, I am sure he will recall, or, at least, he will see when ...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c237-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the problem with an amendment like this is that the words ““cost-benefit analysis”” sound ...
Lord Dykes | 702 c234-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will take the sagacious advice of the Lord President and proceed with what were supposed...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c235-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to speak for long on this issue, but the noble Lord, Lord Dykes, has brought...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c234 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord labours this point, he will find that the first of those Bills went into...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c234 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are in danger of lapsing into a Committee stage debate. I am grateful that noble Lords ...
Lord Dykes | 702 c232-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for once I can agree with the noble Lord, Lord Pearson. I thought that I heard him say, ““...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c232 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fear I may have forgotten to mention the magic words. I beg to move.
Viscount Simon | 702 c232 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for interrupting the noble Lord. Has the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, moved his a...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c232 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am advised that I did remember the magic words. However, I trust that we can take the pe...
Lord Dykes | 702 c232 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very relieved to hear that, as I thought that the noble Viscount was about to refer t...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c231 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I meant the economies of the Ukraine and central Asia.
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c231-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords: I meant India, China and Russia. I meant where the money is on the planet today. They...
Lord Dykes | 702 c232 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there are some sad occasions in this House, even during the passage of the European Union ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c231 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I trust that it was clear that I meant free in the sense that they were unburdened by the ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c231 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the British people would like to know how much this madness is costing us in cash. I beg t...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c231 (Link to this contribution) I said that I did not want to bring that in, my Lords, but I was provoked. We appear to be dealing ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c231 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, I was very familiar with much of his argument; indeed, we...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c229-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I accept that the noble Baroness knows a little bit about financial services. I apologise ...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c230 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, once and for all, would the noble Lord grasp that I do not receive a pension from the Euro...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c230-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that I said that the noble Lord did personally receive a pension from the Eu...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c230 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be very short. I thank the noble Lord for giving way. Would he try and play the ga...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c230 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord provokes me. The game is made up of the men. I was not going to remind nobl...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c228-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may intervene again because the noble Lord made a personal remark to the effect ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c228 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should point out to the noble Baroness that the head, which was being shaken, not nodded...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c228 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the noble Lord seriously saying that the City of London does not benefit from the commo...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c223-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may say to the noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, that, without evolution, he ...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c223 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am used to the noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, describing everyone and everything E...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c222-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord has just made a speech that encapsulates why some of us object to the futur...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c227-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause— ““Cost-benefit analys...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c226-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate that this amendment has been received with less than total rapture by some no...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c225-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not believe the President will be signing treaties. I make a distinction with the Pre...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c225 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Baroness. Does she envisage the role of this new President...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c219-20 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13: 13: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) any provi...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 702 c220-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would be interesting periodically to have a report on the development of all the instit...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c221-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would argue a little differently, yet in the same sense as the noble Lord, Lord Maclenna...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c222 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take a completely different point of view from that of the noble Lord, Lord Maclennan, w...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 702 c222 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree very much with the noble Lord, Lord Maclennan, that this is a good and positive tr...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c248 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has produced a number of new proposals which it will be very interesting to study mor...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c249-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate that the noble Lord does not understand and I am worried that he is getting i...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c236-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Pearson on this amendment. I do not understand why the nobl...
Subjects
Costs EU law European Union European communities Powers Parliamentary scrutiny Treaties UK membership of EU European Council Treaty of Lisbon
Legislation
European Union (Amendment) Bill 2007-08
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