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Debate on Wednesday, 28 October 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Keeley. The answering member was Lord Young of Cookham.

Speaker's Committee for the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority

Debate on a motion that Sir Stuart Bell, Liz Blackman, Nick Harvey, Mr Don Touhig and Sir George Young be appointed under Schedule 3 to the Parliamentary Standards Act 2009 as members of the Speaker’s Committee for the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority until the end of the present Parliament. Agreed to on question.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
498 c397-412 
Session
2008-09
Department
Leader of the House of Commons
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Christopher Chope | 498 c403 (Link to this contribution) Usually the advice that hon. Members receive from Mr. Speaker is that if they wish for some assistan...
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Charles Walker | 498 c402 (Link to this contribution) I am no great expert on parliamentary procedure, but if I am called by the House of Commons to serve...
Christopher Chope | 498 c402 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to you, Mr. Speaker, for making that clear. I look to my hon. Friend the Member f...
Andrew Turner | 498 c403 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Broxbourne (Mr. Walker) is mouthing the word, "How?" Can my hon. Frien...
Christopher Chope | 498 c403 (Link to this contribution) I think that the process that my hon. Friend needs to go through is to demonstrate a willingness to ...
Charles Walker | 498 c402 (Link to this contribution) I shall move on and conclude with this plea. The Committee would certainly benefit from having a you...
Christopher Chope | 498 c402 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Broxbourne (Mr. Walker). He, like other hon...
Charles Walker | 498 c401-2 (Link to this contribution) I am hugely impressed by the names that have been put forward for the Committee. It is a smorgasbord...
David Winnick | 498 c400-1 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. However, I am not at all happy with the way in which we are going about matters. I...
David Heath | 498 c399-400 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Member for North-West Hampshire (Sir George Young) said, the appointment of the Co...
Lord Young of Cookham | 498 c399 (Link to this contribution) May I make a little progress? It is up to the Speaker's Committee to discuss and agree on those nom...
David Winnick | 498 c399 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Young of Cookham | 498 c399 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but if my hon. Friend looks at that list, he will see that it is a very comprehensive list inde...
Christopher Chope | 498 c398 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend repeated what the Deputy Leader of the House said about the limited role of the...
Lord Young of Cookham | 498 c398 (Link to this contribution) The answer to the hon. Gentleman is that IPSA is independent. All we are doing this evening is appoi...
Bob Spink | 498 c398 (Link to this contribution) How can the right hon. Gentleman expect the public to have confidence in a so-called independent Com...
Lord Young of Cookham | 498 c398 (Link to this contribution) I imagine that, if my hon. Friend felt that the names before the House were not appropriate, he coul...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c397 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That Sir Stuart Bell, Liz Blackman, Nick Harvey, Mr Don Touhig and Sir George Young b...
Speaker | 498 c397 (Link to this contribution) Order. I apologise for interrupting the Deputy Leader of the House, but this is an important matter....
Baroness Keeley | 498 c397 (Link to this contribution) As I was saying, the Committee's composition and functions are defined in the Parliamentary Standard...
Lord Young of Cookham | 498 c397-8 (Link to this contribution) I want to add a brief footnote to what we have just heard from the Deputy Leader of the House, and t...
Nicholas Winterton | 498 c398 (Link to this contribution) Mr. Speaker, I am not sure that I should not put this question to you, but I shall put it to my righ...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c397 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not give way at the moment. The Parliamentary Standards Act gives the Speaker's Committe...
Charles Walker | 498 c409 (Link to this contribution) The problem is that often it is people with experience who get us into a mess in the first place. Th...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c408-9 (Link to this contribution) Those points have been aired well in this short debate, and I am sure that they will be taken on boa...
David Heath | 498 c408 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right—that was a comment to the hon. Gentleman's Front-Bench colleagues. However, t...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c408 (Link to this contribution) That is a comment from the hon. Gentleman to his own Front-Bench colleagues, so I shall leave them t...
Charles Walker | 498 c408 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that there could be elections in the future. The point I was trying to make is that these ...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c409-10 (Link to this contribution) The answer is yes. Advertisements have been placed, so the process of recruiting the chair and board...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c409 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman refers to members of the Committee, but the nominations for the Committee is what...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c409 (Link to this contribution) I cannot help any further on that point. I am sure that all points have been made as well as possibl...
Speaker | 498 c406 (Link to this contribution) I shall exercise my discretion and say that nothing disorderly has happened so far, but I am all ago...
Peter Bottomley | 498 c406 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Is it in order to use the word "tainted" about someone who takes o...
Charles Walker | 498 c407 (Link to this contribution) I have decided not to put my name forward, because I would not want to bump any of the excellent peo...
Christopher Chope | 498 c406-7 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend the Member for North-West Hampshire and I go back many years, and I shall not e...
David Winnick | 498 c408 (Link to this contribution) I said earlier that I did not intend to press this matter to a Division, and I normally keep my word...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c408 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. I am sure that all hon. Members' points about the method of nominating Members to Committees...
Christopher Chope | 498 c407 (Link to this contribution) If this debate has achieved nothing else, it has enabled my hon. Friend to make a strong case for be...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c407 (Link to this contribution) We have had some interesting bids. Let me turn first to the question of Committee membership, given ...
Stephen Pound | 498 c407 (Link to this contribution) May I just say that, if nominated, I will not run, and if elected, I will not serve? That should be ...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c407-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that point. We have had this debate a number of times. I think it came u...
Bob Spink | 498 c411 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. There is still quite some time to run in this one-and-a-half-hour ...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c411 (Link to this contribution) I shall not take any more interventions. On the matter of urgency, I do not feel that I need to com...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c412 (Link to this contribution) I want to bring this to a conclusion now.
Speaker | 498 c412 (Link to this contribution) There is a statutory duty involved here, but questioning me on the matter in the way that the hon. M...
Peter Bottomley | 498 c412 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. Yes must be the House's response to what you have said....
Speaker | 498 c412 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is experienced enough a Member of the House to know perfectly well that that is n...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c412 (Link to this contribution) No, I have said that I am not accepting any more interventions. I have touched on the fact that the ...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c410 (Link to this contribution) I think that the answer is yes. The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority is clearly an inde...
Peter Bottomley | 498 c410 (Link to this contribution) Could the Deputy Leader of the House confirm that we are talking about an independent body that will...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c410 (Link to this contribution) That is a matter of opinion, although I do not share the hon. Gentleman's view.
Bob Spink | 498 c410 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady think that the public will be greatly impressed by the word "independent" in the ...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c410-1 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it is our function this evening to discuss the Kelly report, but as I understand...
Christopher Chope | 498 c410 (Link to this contribution) The Deputy Leader of the House has not yet told us when the board will start its work. I wonder whet...
Peter Bottomley | 498 c411 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure who is advising the Leader of the House or the House authorities, but can we have an a...
Christopher Chope | 498 c411 (Link to this contribution) Is it the Minister's hope and desire that the board will be up and running before the end of this ca...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c411 (Link to this contribution) All we can say on this is that everything will move as fast as it can. Given that we only debated th...
Christopher Chope | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) It has not been officially published as a document, but the hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Sir Stuar...
Brooks Newmark | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) May I correct my hon. Friend? I do not believe that the Kelly report has actually been published yet...
Christopher Chope | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) Exactly, Mr. Speaker, and what we are talking about tonight is the membership of that Committee and ...
Speaker | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the hon. Gentleman seeks to intervene, I want to call the hon. Member for Christchurch...
Christopher Chope | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) It is rather like the definition of an elephant—when one sees one, one knows one. When we look at th...
Tom Clarke | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) I am listening closely to the hon. Gentleman's arguments. Will he define how one becomes and remains...
Christopher Chope | 498 c404 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the hon. Gentleman has been able to remove that possibility, but I spoke to a se...
Christopher Chope | 498 c403 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is nodding in agreement with that proposition, so I look forward to hearing her expand ...
David Heath | 498 c403 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman has one scintilla of evidence for that suggestion, because I can cate...
David Lidington | 498 c406 (Link to this contribution) Surely my hon. Friend heard the comments of the Deputy Leader of the House. She said that our right ...
Christopher Chope | 498 c406 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I could start off with my right hon. Friend the Member for North-West Hampshire. He has been...
Christopher Chope | 498 c406 (Link to this contribution) That may be incidental. I am sure that my hon. Friend is right that our right hon. Friend the Member...
Charles Walker | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) Surely it could go on the parliamentary intranet tomorrow.
Christopher Chope | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) IPSA will certainly do so, if it is advised by the contents of the Parliamentary Standards Act 2009,...
Speaker | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) Order. In addition to the right hon. and learned Lady the Leader of the House and me, the hon. Membe...
Christopher Chope | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) Of course it could, if there was the will on the part of the Government. I hope that the Deputy Lead...
Speaker | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I say again to the hon. Gentleman that, as he knows, this is a debate on motion 3? It is ...
Christopher Chope | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, I agree with you on that, Mr. Speaker—I am certainly not qualified to carry out a leak i...
Charles Walker | 498 c405 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that IPSA will regard the Kelly report as purely advisory?
Andrew Turner | 498 c409 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Lady saying that members of the Committee are shortly to be appointed—in other words, th...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c411 (Link to this contribution) I can do no more than say that I have been working on this, along with other people. An implementati...
Speaker | 498 c402 (Link to this contribution) Order. The content of the hon. Gentleman's speech is naturally, and entirely, a matter for him. I am...
Baroness Keeley | 498 c397 (Link to this contribution) No. My comments will be very brief, and there will be opportunities—
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Membership Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority Speaker's Committee for the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority Bell, Stuart Blackman, Liz Touhig, Lord Young of Cookham, Lord Harvey, Nick
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