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Debate on Monday, 14 December 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Keeley. The answering member was Justine Greening.

Regional Select Committee (London)

Debate on a motion that Ms Karen Buck, Jeremy Corbyn, Clive Efford, Siobhain McDonagh, Mr Andy Slaughter and Mr Andrew Pelling be members of the London Regional Select Committee. Agreed on division (212 to 124).

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Parliamentary proceeding
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502 c748-70 
Session
2009-10
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Leader of the House of Commons
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House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) When I first came into this House, there was no Greater London assembly or Mayor for London. Therefo...
Andrew Pelling | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) I am enjoying the best after-dinner speech that I have heard all year. Is not the solution to the ho...
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Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for assuring the House that I have no feelings of antipathy towards Scotland....
Speaker | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) Order. We have the general drift of the point.
Speaker | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) Order. I do not require any help from the hon. Member for Croydon, South (Richard Ottaway). For the ...
Nicholas Brown | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, it is a pleasure to follow the hon. Gentleman. He will not speak for the Govern...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend asks about our hon. Friends, I might give him an opinion, but I will not speak for...
David Burrowes | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend think that those hon. Members suggested for the Committee are on their way up or...
Speaker | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
Nicholas Brown | 502 c764 (Link to this contribution) claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36). Question put forthwith, That the Question be n...
Speaker | 502 c761 (Link to this contribution) Order. Yes, I am very happy, indeed extremely eager, that the hon. Gentleman should return to the te...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 502 c760 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend share my dismay at the omission from the Committee of the witty repartee of the ...
Speaker | 502 c760 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is a very old hand—if memory serves me correctly, he has now served in this...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c760 (Link to this contribution) It is wonderful to hear your words, Mr. Speaker, because they are the voice of reason. The interest...
Speaker | 502 c760 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. Would that I could describe that as a point of order; I am not ...
Lord McLoughlin | 502 c760 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point of order, Mr. Speaker. May I draw your attention to the motion in the name of ...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) I have to say, Mr. Speaker, how genuinely grateful I am for your guidance on these matters. The hour...
Jim Sheridan | 502 c760 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. You have been a great advocate of trying to modernise this House a...
Speaker | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his helpful confirmation that he will accept the will of the...
Stephen Crabb | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) If we take the example of the Welsh Affairs Committee, on which, indeed, there are Members who repre...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) Well, Mr. Speaker, I have to tell my hon. Friend that the reason nobody from outside London can sit ...
Speaker | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am very glad to hear that the hon. Gentleman is not going to go down that route, and there ...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) The reason why I did not consider the hon. Gentleman is that he had nothing to do with delivering th...
Lord Robathan | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) As we are considering possible members, does my hon. Friend recall that the definition of a cockney ...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c759 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend leads me up to a line that I shall not go down. I am not a sheep that will be led eas...
Lord Gove | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) Like the hon. Member for Paisley and Renfrewshire, North (Jim Sheridan), I am a Scot, and proudly so...
Speaker | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) That is a point of information and debate.
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) I do not know why the hon. Gentleman is so excited. I know it is late and that he wants to go home, ...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to someone else from south of the river.
Stephen Hammond | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) It is a great place to come from, but one proposed member of the Committee who comes from south of t...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I was a little harsh with the hon. Gentleman opposite from Scotland. Therefore, much as I wo...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend asks a very good question. I am not sure that I am able in any way to go down that li...
Philip Davies | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend says he thinks the Select Committee should talk about issues such as Crossrail, but p...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises a very important point, because a Regional Select Committee for London will ha...
Robert Neill | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will recognise that overground transport is a key issue in London. The London borough...
Speaker | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman asks whether that matter should be rehearsed. The clear and explicit answe...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) Once again, Mr. Speaker, I am so grateful to you, because sometimes there is a temptation to go down...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c761 (Link to this contribution) I will bear that in mind, but I have to say that I was not actually referring to any physical propor...
Greg Knight | 502 c761 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend gave the hon. Member for Paisley and Renfrewshire, North (Jim Sheridan) some advice a...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c761 (Link to this contribution) You will know, Mr. Speaker, that it is not within my power to keep anybody here. All I know is that ...
Speaker | 502 c761 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am listening with the closest interest and respect to what the hon. Gentleman is saying, as...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c761 (Link to this contribution) I do not really understand what "any hour" means in this sense, Mr. Speaker. Whether it is "may" or ...
Anne Main | 502 c762 (Link to this contribution) May I take my hon. Friend back to about 15 minutes into his oratory, when he talked about the suitab...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c757-8 (Link to this contribution) I am not here to upset people on the other side of the House. When it comes to general elections, th...
Lord Redwood | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) Let me help my hon. Friend, who is making an interesting contribution. I came here to vote against t...
David TC Davies | 502 c758 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend just mentioned the importance of the Members listed in the motion working hard in the...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c758 (Link to this contribution) No. The hon. Member for Hayes and Harlington (John McDonnell), my constituency neighbour, is genuine...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c758 (Link to this contribution) I am absolutely sure that this Select Committee will not venture far. It may not even cross the M25....
Stephen Hammond | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) As a relative newcomer to the House, I listened intently to my hon. Friend's words about procedure a...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) Even more cynicism. [Interruption.] As an excellent voice behind me says, perhaps that cynicism coul...
Andrew Pelling | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) I am enjoying the hon. Gentleman's sarcasm, but does he not think that if what he describes is how t...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) Don't you just love the Scots, Mr. Speaker? Marvellous. I could, although I am sure you would tell m...
Jim Sheridan | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) It may be lost on the hon. Gentleman that we have just had an election in this country, and his part...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) We have had national elections, European elections and a few others. Remind me where the Labour part...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) I am incredibly grateful to you, Mr. Speaker, as always. I was led astray. I have some Scottish bloo...
Speaker | 502 c757 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman is being led astray, and I know that he would not want to be led astray. H...
Justine Greening | 502 c753 (Link to this contribution) I simply do not agree with the Deputy Leader of the House. I think that we need to take these issues...
Justine Greening | 502 c753 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, of course. That is the ultimate accountability gap that the Government have...
David Burrowes | 502 c753 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend talks about the election, and obviously Boris Johnson was elected as Mayor for London...
Lord McLoughlin | 502 c752 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for Putney (Justine Greening) makes a ve...
Speaker | 502 c752 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to disappoint the right hon. Gentleman—or perhaps I do—but I fear that rather than res...
Justine Greening | 502 c753 (Link to this contribution) I shall start to conclude my comments, because I know, from talking to them in the Lobby earlier, th...
Baroness Keeley | 502 c753 (Link to this contribution) There has been a lot of support for the work of the parliamentary reform Committee, which had much l...
Justine Greening | 502 c751-2 (Link to this contribution) Conservative Members know exactly how to raise London issues in this Chamber. We raise them every da...
Lord Robathan | 502 c752 (Link to this contribution) I note that some of those named on the Order Paper are not here tonight. Will my hon. Friend conside...
Justine Greening | 502 c752 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an interesting point. I think that most people would be concerned if the hon. ...
Justine Greening | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) The Deputy Leader of the House is, of course, right on this occasion, but it is instructive to consi...
Justine Greening | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) I want to make some progress, but I will give way.
Baroness Keeley | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) I should point out that only London Members have been nominated this evening.
Justine Greening | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend refers to the fact that one of the problems with this Select Committee is that it doe...
Robert Neill | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend is about to make a very similar point to this, but the London assembly...
Speaker | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) Order. I shall be charitable to the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill) by conclu...
Speaker | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) Order. I apologise for interrupting the eloquence of the hon. Lady's flow, but I am afraid that we r...
Justine Greening | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me such a brilliant introduction to the next part of my remarks, ...
Justine Greening | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I was saying, one of the worst aspects of the motion is that it is a dire...
Tom Levitt | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Further to your answer to the recent point of order, I note that t...
Speaker | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) I feel absolutely confident that the hon. Gentleman is not seeking to do the work of the Chair. I kn...
Baroness Keeley | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) It appears to be being suggested that there are restrictions in respect of the names that can be put...
Justine Greening | 502 c749-50 (Link to this contribution) Another problem is that this is costly. It is a cost that the taxpayer cannot afford, yet many Membe...
Lee Scott | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that not many of our constituents have knocked on our doors saying they wa...
Justine Greening | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) That is right. Throughout the country, people's concern is about not the quantity of government, but...
Bob Spink | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) Although I agree with the hon. Lady on the efficacy of the motion, will she not at least concede tha...
Justine Greening | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not agree at all, and I shall come on to why I have a problem with the names that the House...
Stephen Hammond | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) Is not the nub of the issue what my hon. Friend the Member for Upminster (Angela Watkinson) said, wh...
Justine Greening | 502 c750 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is complete duplication, and I think it is worse than that, because we have a London assembl...
Justine Greening | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right.
Justine Greening | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) That is a good point. I am sure that investigation would reveal first whether those Members had been...
Angela Watkinson | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the Members listed on the Order Paper have been appointed to an entir...
Baroness Keeley | 502 c748 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That Ms Karen Buck, Jeremy Corbyn, Clive Efford, Siobhain McDonagh, Mr Andy Slaughter...
Justine Greening | 502 c748 (Link to this contribution) I intend to challenge the Government's motion, but I think it might be a good idea first to establis...
Justine Greening | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of course, I did not intend to dwell for too long on some of the other Selec...
Peter Bone | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) Before the House can make up its mind about whether individual Members are right for the Select Comm...
Andrew Dismore | 502 c748-9 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. The motion relates simply to membership of the Committee. It was n...
Speaker | 502 c749 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I respond to the point of order, let me say that I am a bit worried about the hon. Mem...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman—my erstwhile Friend. I wonder whether Members on both sides...
Andrew Pelling | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) It was a novel approach. No Whips were involved. I volunteered.
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an interesting point. From the look on the faces of those on the Government Be...
Lord Robathan | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) It does indeed seem a complete waste of time, but it seems likely that the Chairman of the Committee...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) A very long way, but I think he is wrong on this point. Everybody has a right to vote on the motion....
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend raises an interesting point that I would have come to later. Presumably, the ho...
Lord McLoughlin | 502 c755 (Link to this contribution) Before my hon. Friend finishes singing the praises of the hon. Member for Islington, North, will he ...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c755 (Link to this contribution) I hate to bring politics into this debate. My right hon. Friend reminds me of the point that I was m...
Speaker | 502 c754 (Link to this contribution) Order. I know that the hon. Member for Uxbridge (Mr. Randall) will understand when I say that we do ...
Robert Neill | 502 c754 (Link to this contribution) If it is of any assistance to my hon. Friend, I understand that Islington was originally in the hist...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c754 (Link to this contribution) May I say what a great pleasure it is to take part in this debate? These debates about London matter...
Robert Smith | 502 c753-4 (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree that it is time for a general election, and the Prime Minister should call one rat...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c755 (Link to this contribution) I have many ambitions for you, Mr. Speaker. Unfortunately, because of your high office and despite y...
Speaker | 502 c755 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that that was his ambition for me, but we will not go further int...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c754 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to you profusely, Mr. Speaker. It is a fault of mine to be dewy-eyed from time to time w...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c760-1 (Link to this contribution) If I allow myself to go back to the heady days of the debates on the Greater London Authority Act 19...
Baroness Keeley | 502 c751 (Link to this contribution) It seems as though the hon. Lady would really like to nominate some Members from her party, and I in...
Christopher Chope | 502 c758 (Link to this contribution) In discussing possible members of the Committee, why did my hon. Friend not refer to the hon. Member...
Greg Knight | 502 c756 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend comes to the debate with clean hands, but perhaps not dry hands, becau...
Jim Sheridan | 502 c763 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. May I just point out that I am not the Member for Scotland? I am t...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 502 c756-7 (Link to this contribution) Is it not sad to find such cynicism? As you know as a former member of the Chairmen's Panel, Mr. Spe...
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