Debate on bill on Monday, 15 March 2010, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Young of Norwood Green.

Digital Economy Bill [HL]

Digital Economy Bill (HL). Lords third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed and sent to the Commons.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 718 c457-92
Session: 2009-10
Department: Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Legislative stage: Third reading
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Digital Economy Bill (HL). As amended on Report.
Monday, 8 March 2010
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Lord Maxton | 718 c478 (Link to this contribution) I may be wrong, but I thought that the convention on wash-up is that there has to be a Second Readin...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are in somewhat deep waters here. However, if Second Reading follows on after one House...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move my Amendment 15, although I suspect that is a bit redundant after what I hav...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c480 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt the Minister. He assumes, therefore, that the wash-up will take place at the...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c480 (Link to this contribution) I answered that. However, the noble Earl is clearly as unfamiliar with the procedure as, I confess, ...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c480 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for those assurances. They go a long way to assuaging the fears of a huge swath...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c480 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have already reminded the House of the Government’s concerns on the legal status of Clau...; Lord Lucas | 718 c479 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Earl that it is important to deal with the position of search engin...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c478-9 (Link to this contribution) It might benefit the House if that question were dealt with. Perhaps I should first make my point on...; Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 718 c478 (Link to this contribution) In that case, following my noble friend Lord Maxton, what mechanism do the Government have for intro...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c471-2 (Link to this contribution) In moving this amendment, I will also speak to Amendments 16, 21 and 22. There are different views a...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c473 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I assume that the noble Lords, Lord De Mauley and Lord Howard, will be speaking to their a...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c475-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I made the Government’s view of this clause clear on Report. I certainly agree that we sho...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c475 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with the permission of the House, it may help if I clarify that issue, which I know a litt...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c477 (Link to this contribution) 15: Clause 18, page 22, line 20, at end insert "and, in the case of online search service providers,...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c476-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate and, in particular, the n...; Lord Lucas | 718 c473-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted that we are making progress in this direction. Whether the Government will ...; Lord Howard of Rising | 718 c473 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, has put the point that needs to be made on this clause extremely...; Lord Razzall | 718 c474 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the Minister responds, it would be worth him answering the question asked by the nobl...; Lord Triesman | 718 c474 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, for his generous comments and record the fact that I a...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c469 (Link to this contribution) 7: Clause 12, page 15, line 38, leave out "made" Amendment 7 agreed. Clause 13 : Contents of code ...; Lord Whitty | 718 c469-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 12 is much more straightforward and I hope that the Government will be prepared ...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c469 (Link to this contribution) 9: Clause 14, page 18, line 5, after "done" insert "(or, if there is more than one such report, as r...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c469 (Link to this contribution) 8: Clause 13, page 16, line 41, after "disputes;" insert— "( ) that there are adequate arrangements ...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c471 (Link to this contribution) 13: Clause 17, page 21, line 46, leave out "for the time being" Amendment 13 agreed. Clause 18 : P...; Lord Whitty | 718 c471 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the assurance that this will be taken into account when the secondary legislatio...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c470-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment addresses an important issue. It is essential that subscribers have the abi...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c470 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment because I have seen how the threat of costs has been ...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c471 (Link to this contribution) 14: Clause 18, page 22, line 16, at end insert— "(1A) The copyright owner applying for an injunction...; Lord Fowler | 718 c464 (Link to this contribution) Watch Sky.; Earl of Erroll | 718 c464 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has not seen my e-mail in which I argued that I thought the issues were just within t...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c464-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not believe that we should accept the amendment. It is very clear under new Section 1...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c464 (Link to this contribution) The channel is 101 on my Sky machine, and it is at 8.30 pm tonight, if that is of any assistance to ...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c467 (Link to this contribution) 3: Clause 8, page 12, line 12, leave out from "relate" to end of line 13; Lord Whitty | 718 c466-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obviously disappointed in that. This Bill, as my noble friend recognises despite his ...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c468 (Link to this contribution) 4: Clause 8, page 12, line 23, after "disputes;" insert— "( ) that there are adequate arrangements u...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c467-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am proposing this group of seven amendments, which are needed for the purpose of tidying...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c468-9 (Link to this contribution) 5: Clause 10, page 14, line 24, leave out from "subscriber" to end of line 25 and insert ", within t...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c468 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in earlier debates on these provisions we have discussed, and agree, the need for Ofcom to...; Lord Williams of Elvel | 718 c463 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for intervening, but the noble Earl must remember that we have a Companion to ...; Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 718 c462-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the disquiets I had at Second Reading have not been dissipated, and I join the noble Lord,...; Lord Razzall | 718 c461 (Link to this contribution) I think the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, should withdraw the remarks he made about my noble friend Lord ...; Lord Puttnam | 718 c462 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much hope that this is the last time I will speak in what has been a very protracte...; Lord Razzall | 718 c461 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not intend to speak on this amendment, but I cannot allow the remarks of the noble L...; Lord Whitty | 718 c461 (Link to this contribution) My remarks represent my personal view. In fact, Consumer Focus may be slightly more conciliatory, so...; Lord Whitty | 718 c458 (Link to this contribution) 2: Clause 4, page 7, line 40, after "subscriber" insert "which have been the subject of notification...; Lord Whitty | 718 c458-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am allowed to move Amendment 2, and in doing so I declare my usual interest as chair of ...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 718 c457-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before we begin the debate it may be helpful for me to say a few words about Third Reading...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c490-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of the amendment is to apply a licensing body’s obligations under a code of pr...; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c490 (Link to this contribution) 34: Schedule 2, page 63, line 42, at end insert— "(3) Regulations under paragraph 1 must provide for...; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c490 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Digital Economy Bill contains detailed provisions of a code of practice for licensed b...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c489 (Link to this contribution) What the Minister had to say was very interesting. I understand that the points we make will be hear...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c488-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we believe that the government amendments address a number of the concerns raised by the n...; Lord Mandelson | 718 c490 (Link to this contribution) 32: Schedule 2, page 63, line 1, at beginning insert "by regulations" 33: Schedule 2, page 63, lin...; Lord Mandelson | 718 c489-90 (Link to this contribution) 31: Clause 43, page 52, line 24, at end insert— "( ) In this section— "copyright licence" has the sa...; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c489 (Link to this contribution) I would like to add to the question of substantial. When the Minister is engaged in further refining...; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c489 (Link to this contribution) 30: Clause 43, page 52, line 21, at end insert— "( ) When exercising the powers under this section, ...; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c491 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 34 withdrawn. Amendment 35 Moved by; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c491 (Link to this contribution) 36: Schedule 2, page 65, line 32, at end insert— "( ) The regulations must provide for the factors t...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c491 (Link to this contribution) 35: Schedule 2, page 65, line 25, leave out "(within the meaning of paragraph 1)" Amendment 35 agre...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c491-2 (Link to this contribution) 38: Schedule 2, page 65, line 35, at end insert— "( ) In this paragraph— "member", in relation to a ...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c482-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, for being more explicit in the note which he...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c483 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that extremely informative and useful reply. I now understand tha...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c482 (Link to this contribution) 25: Clause 39, page 46, line 35, after "licence" insert— "(i)"; Earl of Erroll | 718 c482 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unfortunately, I have left my notes on this amendment downstairs because I was in rather a...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c481 (Link to this contribution) The Government accepted an amendment tabled in Committee by the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, when he sou...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c481-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I added my name to this amendment, which shows perfectly what Third Reading is for. I was ...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c481 (Link to this contribution) 24: Clause 20, page 26, line 16, leave out "any" and insert "one or more"; Earl of Erroll | 718 c481 (Link to this contribution) I am in a difficult position. I am delighted that the Minister realises the shortcomings of this cla...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c480 (Link to this contribution) The other place.; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c480 (Link to this contribution) Will the wash-up take place in the other place or in this House?; Lord Howarth of Newport | 718 c487-8 (Link to this contribution) I welcome government Amendment 28, which is the Government’s response to the important points powerf...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c485-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, during our debate on Report, I agreed that the Government would consider Amendments 155A a...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c486 (Link to this contribution) 29: Clause 43, line 2, leave out from "provide" to end of line 14 and insert "that no extended licen...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c486-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is always slightly disconcerting to get an answer before you have asked the question, b...; Viscount Bridgeman | 718 c487 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I again declare an interest as a non-executive director of the Bridgeman Art Library, a ph...; Lord Clement-Jones | 718 c484 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I briefly rise to recognise that these are drafting amendments. I very much hope that the ...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c483 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of clarifying amendments is intended to tidy up drafting and correct unintended...; Lord Young of Norwood Green | 718 c484 (Link to this contribution) 28: Clause 43, page 52, line 21, at end insert— "( ) The regulations must provide for the factors to...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c484 (Link to this contribution) That is a good try by the noble Lord. Here I am dealing with technical amendments and there he is op...; Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c483 (Link to this contribution) 27: Clause 43, page 52, line 14, leave out "(within the meaning of section 116)"; Lord Whitty | 718 c469 (Link to this contribution) 12: Clause 16, page 20, line 18, at end insert— "and shall, in relation to any provision for payment...; Earl of Erroll | 718 c463 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to make a couple of remarks, as I have my name down to this amendment. I thank the ...; Lord Howard of Rising | 718 c490 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. It would be quite illogical for conditions to be imposed on one level of ...
Subjects: Access Codes of practice Broadcasting Costs Computer networks Copyright Digital broadcasting Communication Licensing ICT Internet Mobile phones Parliamentary scrutiny Ofcom Performing arts Subscriptions Internet service providers
Legislation: Digital Economy Bill (HL) 2009-10
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Digital Economy Bill [HL]

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