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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 3 November 2010, in the House of Lords.

Identity Documents Bill

Identity Documents Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clauses 6 to 14 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment. Grand Commitee held in the Moses Room.

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Parliamentary proceeding
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721 c45-54GC 
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Related items
Deposited Paper DEP2010-2132
Monday, 29 November 2010
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Maxton | 721 c47GC (Link to this contribution) It has the name of the person who paid for it.
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c47GC (Link to this contribution) Right. It therefore identifies that person and there is a number in relation to it.
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Lord Maxton | 721 c47GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may briefly clarify that. A TV licence does not relate to an individual; it relates to the...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c47GC (Link to this contribution) It would seem that I have given a bad example. Does it not have the name of the licence holder on it...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness agonises over whether to withdraw the amendment, perhaps I may ask the Min...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) If you are going to do a review as extensive as the one proposed, it will have to have external inpu...
Lord Maxton | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) I am not even sure that it does that.
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) I will hold my peace and think more about it.
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c47GC (Link to this contribution) The advice that I am getting is that that would not be the case because a TV licence or similar docu...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c47GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentioned that a departmental pass would be a document under this paragraph. What about...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c46-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure as to whether I am lost. Let me try to explain the differences. One of the d...
Viscount Ullswater | 721 c45GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, this Committee will adjourn as...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c45GC (Link to this contribution) 13: Clause 6, page 3, line 11, after ““(““P””),”” insert ““knowingly and””
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c45GC (Link to this contribution) I have Amendments 13 and 15 in this group, which also contains Amendments 14 and 16 in the name of m...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c45-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the other two amendments in this group, Amendments 14 and 16, are in my name. I reiterate ...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise. The noble Baroness is absolutely right: I failed to deal with the issue. I am concerned...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) In other words, one can commit an offence under Clause 6 without knowing that one is doing so. I do ...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I have worked out which part of the Minister’s answer related to my amendments. I...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c49GC (Link to this contribution) It is not established that that is the case but I think that it is. We do not believe that the Act t...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c48GC (Link to this contribution) I think that I am grateful for that. I do not know whether there has been an answer on my Amendment ...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c49-50GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 17 is grouped with Amendment 18. Again, these are probing amendments and I hope ...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c49GC (Link to this contribution) 17: Clause 10, page 5, line 42, leave out paragraph (h)
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c49GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw Amendment 13. Amendment 13 withdrawn. Amendment 14 not moved. Clause 6 ag...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c50GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, during the passage of the Bill in another place, the Government introduced an amended Clau...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c50-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that answer. I recognise that Clause 10 is a recent addition to the Bill. I think ...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c51GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness asks a perfectly reasonable question to which I shall try to get her an answer. I...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 721 c51GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps before the Minister answers, I could just ask her about what it says at the top of...
Lord Brett | 721 c51GC (Link to this contribution) I am fascinated by the idea that information from a private-sector credit reference agency, whose st...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 721 c52GC (Link to this contribution) Can I respond to that, as we are in Committee? The noble Lord raises an important point. I have no o...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c51-2GC (Link to this contribution) To follow on from what the noble Lord has just said, I think that is why he and I and the noble Lord...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c52GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, several questions have been raised. It is indeed the case that the contract with Experian ...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c52GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wondered whether to table an amendment probing paragraph (i), but since the provision wo...
Countess of Mar | 721 c53GC (Link to this contribution) I was going to apologise for holding up the Committee, but my intervention seems to be opportune. I ...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c53GC (Link to this contribution) I do not have the impression that paragraph (i)—
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c52-3GC (Link to this contribution) I take what the noble Lord says. We come back in all of this to the relationship between the Informa...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c52GC (Link to this contribution) There is a difference in how the power is granted, and the Minister is quite right in saying that th...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c54GC (Link to this contribution) I will endeavour to answer those two points. As regards the question posed by the noble Countess, La...
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c54GC (Link to this contribution) Will it be thought necessary or helpful if we find that a new organisation is holding information ab...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c53GC (Link to this contribution) I think that the point of this is that, before the Secretary of State can start demanding verificati...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 721 c53GC (Link to this contribution) I am not quite sure what we are now trying to do.
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 721 c53GC (Link to this contribution) It is Clause 10(3)(i) at the top of page 6.
Baroness Hamwee | 721 c54GC (Link to this contribution) I think that it was my question, so I obviously I should go away and read the Data Protection Act. I...
Subjects
Fraud Identity cards Personal records Personation Proof of identity Passports Vetting
Legislation
Identity Documents Bill 2010-12
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