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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 1 February 2011, in the House of Lords.

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill. Lords committee stage (sixteenth day). Schedule 1 amendments debated with amendments 110A-E agreed. Schedule 1 as amended, agreed. Schedule 2 amendments debates with amendments 116A, 122ZA and 122A agreed. Schedule 2 as amended, agreed. Schedule 3 amendments 122B and 122C agreed. Schedule 3 as amended, agreed. Schedule 4 amendment 122D agreed.

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724 c1309-98 
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2010-12
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Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1354 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister respond to the question of my noble friend Lord Anderson about the conflict betwee...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1354 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think the noble Lord is asking whether, if a person is frustrated in his activities—I ta...
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Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1354 (Link to this contribution) A local authority registration officer might write a report to the democratic services committee or ...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1352 (Link to this contribution) I gather that some returning officers in Scotland have already begun to complain that they do not kn...
Lord Bach | 724 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in our view these are two excellent amendments, although it is rather surprising that they...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1353-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in addressing the amendment tabled by my noble friend Lord Phillips, I can assure him that...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1356-7 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps two things are getting confused here. My amendment would not deal with the strict legislativ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1357 (Link to this contribution) I cannot accept the second part of what the noble Lord has said, because the Government accept that ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1357 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I really did not want to make heavy weather of this amendment, but I have to say that my n...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1358 (Link to this contribution) 110A: Schedule 1, page 20, line 13, leave out ““appointed under section 8 of the 1983 Act”” Amendme...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1359 (Link to this contribution) 110B: Schedule 1, page 24, line 26, at end insert— ““( ) The Chief Counting Officer is entitled to r...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1358 (Link to this contribution) I am more than happy to do that. Just looking at it briefly, I think that there is a difference of o...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1358 (Link to this contribution) On that basis, I am happy to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 110ZA withdrawn. Amendment 110ZB no...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1358 (Link to this contribution) I apologise if I did not express the matter clearly. What I said was that one effect of requiring co...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1358 (Link to this contribution) There is no reference in my amendment to consultation. This is a power of facilitation and of co-ope...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1357 (Link to this contribution) I think that I noted that, when undertaking the responsibility, the chief counting officer can use h...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1357-8 (Link to this contribution) I was coming on to paragraph 5(5), but I am afraid that my first point stands. If the Minister looks...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1359 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group contains Amendments 110B, 110C, 110C, 110D and 110E. The amendment would give t...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1359 (Link to this contribution) This seems very sensible, but I am slightly bewildered. How on earth does the Chief Counting Officer...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1359 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when this issue arose, the view was taken that it was uncertain that that power existed an...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1346-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not entirely sure why my Amendment 110ZB is grouped with the amendment tabled by the ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1346 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I move this amendment in a probing frame of mind. It refers to paragraph 10 of Schedule 1,...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1350 (Link to this contribution) That is one way of seeking to limit the zeal of any particular officer. It may well be that there sh...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1350-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as someone who takes an interest in the field of IT and new technologies, I have to say th...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1351 (Link to this contribution) Does my noble friend recognise that the position is even more complicated, as I explained in a debat...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1351-2 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend makes a good point because the chance of a reduced turnout is even further increased...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1348-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is a great deal in what the noble Lord says. The trouble is that we have got before ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 724 c1349 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I support the principle behind the amendment that the noble Lord, Lord Phillips of ...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1349-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, when he says that he agrees with the int...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1350 (Link to this contribution) The key word that the noble Lord quoted is ““may””. It gives a discretion to the Government as to wh...
Lord Rennard | 724 c1348 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord might be reassured that I am not going to ask him the question that he feared about w...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think there is a greater likelihood of the Electoral Commission reading Hansard than mem...
Lord Bach | 724 c1316 (Link to this contribution) Can anyone in the country ring your office or just noble Lords?
Lord Soley | 724 c1316 (Link to this contribution) The Electoral Commission staff do read Hansard. Indeed, I suspect that they watch some of the debate...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before getting to the substantive remarks that I wanted to make, as we have heard two inte...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it may be helpful if I deal with this issue because I understand that the Electoral Commis...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1316 (Link to this contribution) I hope that, by whatever means, the Electoral Commission will address the issue raised by these two ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 724 c1314 (Link to this contribution) I am not saying that that would happen. I think that we need to rely on the good faith of the Elect...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1315-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I completely support the spirit of this group of amendments. If all goes well—I nearly sai...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 724 c1313-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, continuing my attempt to be reasonably even-handed in these debates, I have a variety of v...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1313 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for those points, too. On the latter point, these are not alternatives; they are desig...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 724 c1312-3 (Link to this contribution) It is one thing for an organisation to publish a leaflet. The Forestry Commission or the National Tr...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1312 (Link to this contribution) Could I finish answering the noble Lord’s points before I take a further point from him? We have a c...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1312 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for that intervention, which enables me to repeat my earlier point. ...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 724 c1312 (Link to this contribution) Has the noble Lord put a price on such a leaflet being delivered to every household? How would the E...
Lord Lipsey | 724 c1310-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 110ZZA and 110ZZB, which are grouped with the amendment moved ...
Baroness Hayman | 724 c1310 (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 109 by r...
Lord Rooker | 724 c1310 (Link to this contribution) This is the first amendment I have moved on this Bill this year, for those who keep count of our pro...
Lord Rooker | 724 c1309 (Link to this contribution) 108: Schedule 1, page 20, line 1, leave out ““may take whatever steps they think appropriate to”” an...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1323-4 (Link to this contribution) Everything that my noble friend Lord Dixon has just said should definitely go into the leaflet, as s...
Lord Pannick | 724 c1324 (Link to this contribution) This matter should be decided by pragmatism rather than philosophy. I suggest to the noble Lord, Lor...
Lord Pannick | 724 c1324 (Link to this contribution) That is information about the detail of the competing voting systems which are under discussion in t...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1321 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend’s thesis assumes that there are people who are prepared to be in an umbrella organis...
Lord Tyler | 724 c1321 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the noble Lord is aware that the leader of his party supports AV.
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1321 (Link to this contribution) In God-like isolation, he may well. I suspect that even Mr Clegg, if it is before three o'clock in t...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 724 c1322-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I suspect that the reason why the Electoral Commission has taken the phone off the hook is...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1321-2 (Link to this contribution) That just shows the interesting way in which there are many rather odd bedfellows. If people were gi...
Lord Dixon | 724 c1323 (Link to this contribution) Why not just send them a copy of the election that took place in the House of Lords in 2003? You cou...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1320-1 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that Hegel and Heidegger have been alluded to so far. However, following that philoso...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1321 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for giving way. My concept was that the individual elector would pr...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1319 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if my noble friend would make a judgment if I offered him what I consider to be an impartia...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1318-9 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether I should be grateful for my noble friend’s intervention or not. I totally agre...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1318 (Link to this contribution) Is it not a fact also that, when a jury comes to its determination, it has had the points for and th...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1317-8 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I did not give the impression that I had concluded my remarks. Of course I shall give wa...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1320 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow the noble Lord, Lord Low, who has been a great champion of those with disabilitie...
Lord Low of Dalston | 724 c1319-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Davies. I did not mean to interrupt him. I thought tha...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1319 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, as a statement of fact—I return to my philosophical discussion—that would be unexceptionable...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 724 c1333 (Link to this contribution) I have just one question. Will my noble friend give thought to the fact that in the Welsh referendum...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1332-3 (Link to this contribution) I find it easier to answer the second question than the first because, although we all complain abou...
Lord Bach | 724 c1334-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have quite properly had a very full debate on this important group of amendments. The C...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1333 (Link to this contribution) That is a very good question from my noble friend, to which I do not know the answer. No doubt, give...
Lord Wills | 724 c1332 (Link to this contribution) Now that my noble friend has got this particular grievance off his chest, may I say he is right to r...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1331-2 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not see any real prospect of that happening on any big scale at all and that should be a re...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1331 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is a very experienced parliamentarian, one who knows the grass roots and has campaig...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 724 c1328 (Link to this contribution) My recollection—I reflect a point made by the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey—is that in the days now a bit ...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 724 c1328-9 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps that is what should happen, but my point is that imposing a legislative responsibility on th...
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 724 c1329-31 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to speak on this group of amendments, but, having listened to the nature of this ...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1331 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I of course know that this Committee stage has to finish tomorrow and I am therefore reluc...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 724 c1328 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would happily support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, which would leave ou...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1327-8 (Link to this contribution) If my noble friend feels that strongly about the matter, he can table an amendment, put the proposit...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1326-7 (Link to this contribution) I made a joke at the end of my remarks, but there is a serious point to be made about the leaflet be...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1326 (Link to this contribution) I understand that my noble friend will be part of the no campaign and I am sure that he will be impr...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1326 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for giving way. Does he not accept that it will not be just one leaflet beca...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 724 c1325-6 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House, who is replying on this debate, has a very important task before him. Whate...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1326 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in his contribution the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, took the view that the Electoral Commiss...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1325 (Link to this contribution) As the point has already been made, there is no reference to summarising anything in this paragraph....
Lord Pannick | 724 c1325 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Stamford, and that is why I am perfectly content with th...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1324 (Link to this contribution) I heard the noble Lord submit that the discretion of the Electoral Commission on whether to give inf...
Lord Pannick | 724 c1325 (Link to this contribution) I respectfully take the noble Lord’s point. I therefore assume that in the proper exercise of the di...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1343-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bach, for moving the amendment. This important amendment follows on fro...
Lord Soley | 724 c1342-3 (Link to this contribution) I referred to this matter in my earlier comments and I am encouraged to make a further comment partl...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1344 (Link to this contribution) The answer to that, as the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, pointed out, is that it takes a bit longer and m...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1344-5 (Link to this contribution) Off the top of my head—I think I know the answer but I cannot be certain—I think that the answer is ...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1344 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister help me on one issue? He knows as well as I do that before elections, party electio...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1345 (Link to this contribution) 110ZA: Schedule 1, page 20, line 6, at end insert ““including the facilitation of co-operation betwe...
Lord Bach | 724 c1345 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble and learned Lord for his full answer and my noble friend Lord Soley for his contri...
Lord Rooker | 724 c1339-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, I am surprised that the debate has lasted so long. On t...
Lord Bach | 724 c1340 (Link to this contribution) 109A: Schedule 1, page 20, line 3, at end insert— ““subject to the approval of the Speaker’s Committ...
Lord Bach | 724 c1341-2 (Link to this contribution) Following the previous debate, I can move this amendment from the opposition Front Bench comparative...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 724 c1338 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House is making exactly the point that I made, namely that it would be quite wrong...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1337-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is an immensely good suggestion and of course that will be a decision for the Elector...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1339 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am convinced that the broadcasters will see it as part of their remit to involve themsel...
Lord Wills | 724 c1339 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord concludes his remarks, perhaps I might ask him to address the issue that I ask...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1338-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is why I hope that the noble Lord will look at the website. If he does, he will find ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1338 (Link to this contribution) What about factual inaccuracies, for example the discussion about 50 per cent? Ministers at the Disp...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1337 (Link to this contribution) I do not know, but I know that in Wales it will be available in Welsh and English.
Lord Maxton | 724 c1337 (Link to this contribution) Can this be produced as an app for the iPhone and the iPad? That is where many youngsters get their ...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1335-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is good to have an opportunity to join in this debate. I am very grateful to the movers...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1337 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister confirm whether the booklets will available in languages other than English?
Lord Soley | 724 c1394 (Link to this contribution) The Minister slid over that rather quickly. This is an important point and it is what scrutiny is fo...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1394 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I said that I would write on some of the more technical points but, as far as I understand...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1395 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble and learned friend. The fundamental point is that there is ...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1392-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Schedule 2 is important. The noble Lord, Lord Tyler, is right that it reflects experience ...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad that the noble and learned Lord agreed with my noble friend Lord Tyler and said ...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1394 (Link to this contribution) Was the noble Lord happy that although there was a majority in favour of a Parliament for Scotland, ...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1394 (Link to this contribution) That is an interesting point. I should be more specific. What was so good about it was that it broug...
Lord Crickhowell | 724 c1394 (Link to this contribution) Surely it is not right to reply to the noble Lord, Lord Myners, who has broken the conventions of th...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1394 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord Crickhowell for bringing that to the Committee’s attention. He obviousl...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1398 (Link to this contribution) 122D: Schedule 4, page 114, line 24, after ““lists”” insert ““and provide any subsequent revised lis...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1398 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are now moving so fast. The Committee will be relieved to know that this is a minor and...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1395 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the last Labour Government famously had a referendum in London on the London mayor on the ...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1395-6 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House quotes previous referenda, but I think he is making a fundamental mistake in...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1395 (Link to this contribution) I accept the point the Minister is making. I may be wrong here but I do not remember a referendum he...
Lord McAvoy | 724 c1397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a brief question for the Leader of the House. I am sorry that he did not respond to...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1397-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I could follow that up in a letter to the noble Lord. Schedule 3, as amended, agr...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1396 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to say that there may be a generational issue here. My children, who are at sch...
Lord Bach | 724 c1376 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak on behalf of my noble friend Lord Rooker. This small amendment refers to the seali...
Lord McAvoy | 724 c1376 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support the amendment, on which I will enlarge just a bit. We have good ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1376-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment takes us back to the debates two years ago on the Political Parties and Ele...
Lord Myners | 724 c1377 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 122. I think that it is a small but important step; in fac...
Lord McAvoy | 724 c1377 (Link to this contribution) My first reaction is that a transparent ballot box could add to democracy and could be useful. On th...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1375 (Link to this contribution) 116A: Schedule 2, page 33, line 1, leave out from ““with”” to second ““or”” in line 2 and insert ““p...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1374-5 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his detailed response. However, unfortunat...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1375 (Link to this contribution) Just for clarity, the reason why sub-paragraph (5) is not now included as an exception in sub-paragr...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1375 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a minor and technical amendment to correct a cross-reference under rule 13(6)(a) o...
Lord Bach | 724 c1376 (Link to this contribution) 122: Schedule 2, page 38, line 37, leave out ““anyone present”” and insert ““the first elector””
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1375-6 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord has accurately identified the issue and that is, as it were, the error th...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1371-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, for tabling these amendments; he indicated t...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1374 (Link to this contribution) I am not asking the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace, to respond further; I just want to put the...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1370-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one rarely sees an amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Rooker that does not have...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1371 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want, very briefly, to remind civil servants, when they are drawing up the wording as cu...
Lord McAvoy | 724 c1368 (Link to this contribution) I accept what my noble friend says about the Minister’s reply, but is there some way, through the am...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1368 (Link to this contribution) I find that a very helpful reply. The Minister has explained and answered the points raised very wel...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1367-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, for raising these issues with his amendments, which would prov...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1369-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will move and speak to the amendments in this group on behalf of my noble friend Lord Ro...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1369 (Link to this contribution) 115: Schedule 2, page 32, line 24, at end insert ““but no polling station shall be allocated more th...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1369 (Link to this contribution) That is a very interesting suggestion. Although we are rushed in this, I hope that, for future elect...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1364 (Link to this contribution) 112A: Schedule 2, page 29, line 8, leave out ““25th”” and insert ““30th””
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1364-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to be able to move Amendment 112A, which is grouped with Amendments 112B and...
Lord McAvoy | 724 c1366 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of my noble friend’s Amendment 112C. There are two types o...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1363-4 (Link to this contribution) I should perhaps have asked this before but, on page 25, Schedule 1 requires the Electoral Commissio...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1363 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister and, particularly, to my noble and learned friend Lord Falconer for th...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1364 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord the Leader of the House said, I am getting a sapling of an idea of what the reason...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1364 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I probably share the noble and learned Lord’s view. It is almost counterintuitive to think...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1363 (Link to this contribution) I am certainly more than happy to write to the noble Lord on that point. I do not think that I need ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1362-3 (Link to this contribution) I want to go back to my earlier intervention. As I understood the noble and learned Lord’s reply, un...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 724 c1362 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble and learned Lord finishes on that point, I feel some concern that he is not prepare...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1362 (Link to this contribution) That is an important point, one which I wish to reflect on. I think it is satisfactory as it stands,...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1362 (Link to this contribution) That is very helpful. I read the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace of Tankerness, as saying that ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1361 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord would bear with me, the Lord Justice Clerk, Lord Gill, recommends in his...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1361 (Link to this contribution) On the key point, is the Minister saying that because of the recommendation of Lord Gill, he believe...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1360-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, for bringing this amendment forward. He and I well kn...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1360 (Link to this contribution) This is an important point which my noble friend Lord Foulkes has put so accurately. The position sh...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1360 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am pleased to move this amendment. It was suggested to me last year by the Law Society o...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1360 (Link to this contribution) 112: Schedule 1, page 26, line 18, at end insert— ““( ) with the addition at the end of paragraph (b...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1359 (Link to this contribution) 110C: Schedule 1, page 24, line 30, after ““account”” insert ““of a counting officer or Regional Cou...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1362 (Link to this contribution) As I am sure the noble and learned Lord knows, these will ultimately be matters for the court but th...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1392 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend raises a very interesting point. However, in a sense the problem is even greater tha...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1392 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend has made the point. What I was trying to say and I have been trying to say it in a n...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1388-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it was not my intention to speak. Members opposite will know I have not spoken that often ...
Lord McAvoy | 724 c1387-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I normally like to say that it gives me great pleasure to follow a noble Lord, but I am af...
Lord Tyler | 724 c1386-7 (Link to this contribution) This is precisely what the noble Baroness was obviously trying to obviate just now. There has not be...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1391-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am completely mystified because last week the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, admonished us for ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1390 (Link to this contribution) As my noble friend was speaking, something dawned on me which has not been referred to in any of our...
Lord Grocott | 724 c1389-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is one problem with this schedule, which I want to refer to briefly. I am sure that ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 724 c1389 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a bit surprised by the comments from the noble Lord, Lord Tyler. I have a list here t...
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 724 c1386 (Link to this contribution) What context is more appropriate than your Lordships’ House? This is supposed to be the place where ...
Lord Myners | 724 c1385-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have sympathy with some of the sentiments expressed by my noble friend Lord Campbell-Sav...
Lord Tyler | 724 c1386 (Link to this contribution) I will respond briefly to the noble Baroness, Lady Liddell, because she has a good point about the w...
Lord Soley | 724 c1383-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief, but I want to raise an issue that has troubled me in the past. The nobl...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1382-3 (Link to this contribution) All I am saying is that, as an individual Member of the House, I object. Whether it was agreed by th...
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 724 c1384-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak in the debate on whether Schedule 2 should stand part of the Bill not from a passi...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 724 c1384 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree strongly with the comments made by my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours. While it...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1381 (Link to this contribution) 122A: Schedule 2, page 57, leave out line 28 Amendment 122A agreed. Debate on whether Schedule 2 a...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 724 c1382 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hear, of course, what the noble Lord says. This was an agreement with usual channels wit...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1381-2 (Link to this contribution) Before I speak on Schedule 2, I shall comment on the arrangements for the dinner hour to place on re...
Lord Bach | 724 c1380-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that it does not arise. The current wording of the Bill is: "““Immediately b...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1381 (Link to this contribution) 122ZA: Schedule 2, page 54, line 44, leave out from beginning to end of line 6 on page 55 and insert...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1381 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 122ZA is a minor and technical amendment to the definition of ““relevant registr...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1380 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, is right: it would be far better to deal with and debate thes...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1380 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is right in principle, but because we have this artificial deadline of having to agr...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 724 c1379 (Link to this contribution) Is not the answer to the Rennard question, on which my noble friend commented, to find out when we c...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1379 (Link to this contribution) It would be even stronger. It is not just a question of whether they do not want to; they may not be...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1379 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend raises an interesting point. If in the Scottish election on 5 May, the first person ...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 724 c1379 (Link to this contribution) In the unavoidable absence of the noble Lord, Lord Rennard, I will be nitpicking. Surely, if this ch...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 724 c1378-9 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. This election has the potential for some interest among a new group of vote...
Baroness Golding | 724 c1378 (Link to this contribution) Is it not possible that those in charge of a polling station vote by post? They cannot be in charge ...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1378 (Link to this contribution) Yes. Being an elderly gentleman, I have to accept that my experience of campaigning on a personal le...
Lord Myners | 724 c1378 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is as sharp as ever on these issues. I had already given thought to that matter. I s...
Lord Maxton | 724 c1378 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment as well. I support my noble friend Lord Myners in his idea of a transparent ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 724 c1354-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that is how it would work. Reasonable expenditure will be reimbursed by the Governmen...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1352 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to ask the noble Lord to give way again, but I think I can help him on that. Paragraph 5 ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 724 c1324 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to interrupt the noble Lord’s flow, but would he like to reconsider? He has just said tha...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 724 c1344 (Link to this contribution) If a leaflet is to be produced by campaigning organisations, the noble and learned Lord will underst...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1338 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is quite right, and therefore he and I are in agreement on this. As far as ...
Lord Strathclyde | 724 c1397 (Link to this contribution) 122B: Schedule 3, page 76, leave out line 12 122C: Schedule 3, page 85, leave out line 38 Amendme...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 724 c1366-7 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lord Rooker has Amendment 113 in this group, but he has had to leave. It is effectiv...
Lord Soley | 724 c1314-5 (Link to this contribution) I have considerable agreement with the noble Lord, Lord Newton, on the very difficult issues raised ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 724 c1394-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been a returning officer on two occasions. The returning officer has the authority ...
Subjects
Alternative vote Administration Absent voting Costs Expenditure Electoral Commission Referendums Polling stations Scotland Wales
Legislation
Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010-12
Link
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