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Debate on bill on Monday, 20 June 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Iain Duncan Smith. The answering member was Liam Byrne.

Pensions Bill (Lords)

Pensions Bill. (The Northern Ireland Assembly has passed a Legislative Consent Resolution in respect of this Bill.) Second reading debate. Agreed to on division (302 votes to 232). Programme motion on proceedings in Public Bill Committee, on Report, Third reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution agreed to on question.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
530 c41-133 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Work and Pensions
Legislative stage
Second reading
Procedure
Programme motions
Money resolutions
Ways and means resolutions
Queen's recommendation
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Watts | 530 c46 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the right hon. Member for Croydon North.
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Malcolm Wicks | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) I am encouraged by the Secretary of State's thoughtfulness on the matter, to which I hope we will re...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c46 (Link to this contribution) With respect, I recognise the right hon. Gentleman's point, and I will take an intervention from his...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) May I just finish my answer to the right hon. Gentleman? I am always happy to discuss the matter. T...
Lord Watts | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Nick Boles | 530 c45 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that it is extraordinary that a party that professes a belief in equ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c45 (Link to this contribution) I would like to be generous to Labour Members and say that they were thinking of the worst-off in so...
Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 530 c44 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman knows that I have always admired his ambition, but is he familiar with the ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c44-5 (Link to this contribution) It is always nice to be accused of having ambition. I thought I was supposed to have given that up a...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c46 (Link to this contribution) I know that the right hon. Gentleman and the right hon. Member for Croydon North (Malcolm Wicks) hav...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c45-6 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the hon. Lady's concern, but life expectancy has risen among all groups. I recognise als...
Joan Walley | 530 c45 (Link to this contribution) On mortality rates, life expectancy has risen, but is the Secretary of State not aware of the huge i...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent North (Joan Walley).
Joan Walley | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) Will it not be 55-year-old women who pay the price? Will the Secretary of State give the House some ...
Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right in all that he is doing. No one can object to the equalisat...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) As I have made clear and will make clear later, the parameters of the Bill are clear and it is my in...
Lord Sharma | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend not think that the criticisms from the Opposition are rather rich? In Sept...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) Indeed; I welcome that comment from my hon. Friend.
Rachel Reeves | 530 c50 (Link to this contribution) Is the Secretary of State honestly saying that the policy has been changed because of legal advice? ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c50 (Link to this contribution) I do not publish legal advice, but if the hon. Lady reads the coalition agreement, she will see the ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c47-8 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the pre-1975 data are very patchy and messy. I do not want to get sucked into th...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) I am going to make some progress, but I give way to the hon. Member for St Helens North (Mr Watts).
Lord Watts | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State seems to indicate that there is a potential practical problem. Is it not the ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c48 (Link to this contribution) As a coalition, we are, and continue to be, bound by the agreement. [Interruption.] The hon. Lady ca...
Rachel Reeves | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) The coalition agreement states that the parties agree to"““hold a review to set the date at which th...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c48 (Link to this contribution) To be fair, I want to make a bit of progress, because a lot of people want to speak. If the hon. Gen...
Fiona Mactaggart | 530 c48 (Link to this contribution) Which of the facts that the Secretary of State has cited was he unaware of 12 and a half months ago,...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) With respect, I have just said that there are certain elements that would not be legal. That is all ...
Lord Watts | 530 c42 (Link to this contribution) Is it not clear to the Secretary of State and the Government that although everyone accepts that the...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c41-2 (Link to this contribution) Let me make a little more progress and then I will give way. We have protected other key areas of s...
Barry Sheerman | 530 c42 (Link to this contribution) Many of us agree with the Secretary of State that it was about time that someone grappled with this ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c42 (Link to this contribution) As I said at the outset, I will happily take an intervention on that part of the Bill when I come to...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c42-3 (Link to this contribution) I guarantee the hon. Gentleman that I will discuss the issue, and I hope he will still be here then—...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c43 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend refers specifically to the linkage of the personal allowance but, as he knows, ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c43 (Link to this contribution) We are committed to reviewing that year by year, so I can assure my hon. Friend that we will constan...
Lord McCabe | 530 c43 (Link to this contribution) Given that the vast majority of the 600,000 people who will be excluded from getting a pension under...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c43 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the hon. Gentleman's concern. We are not blind to the issue, but we have decided to stri...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c41 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. May I first say something that might help t...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c41 (Link to this contribution) With respect, it never was under the previous Government, and we are not going to change that policy...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c50 (Link to this contribution) We agree, then, that the hon. Lady's proposals would cost us £10 billion. We are on Second Reading, ...
Rachel Reeves | 530 c50 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State rightly acknowledges that we have put forward proposals that would save £20 b...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c51 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State keeps insisting that he wishes to be fair, but the country increasingly think...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c51 (Link to this contribution) I repeat that the Bill that we have presented on Second Reading will retain the dates that we announ...
Nicholas Dakin | 530 c51 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Secretary of State's comments about his willingness to consider transitional arrangeme...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c51 (Link to this contribution) I think I have already covered that ground. I recognise the right hon. Gentleman's concern, but I wi...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c50 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way on this very point?
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c50 (Link to this contribution) I am going to make a little progress. We have more time, and I will give way to other Members later....
James Gray | 530 c51 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is being fair and sensible in his approach, and we admire his determination in ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c50-1 (Link to this contribution) I wish to make a few points, then I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman again. I think I have ...
Richard Fuller | 530 c56 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman was giving a discourse on integrity in pensions provision under the previou...
Liam Byrne | 530 c56 (Link to this contribution) I will give way, and perhaps the hon. Gentleman can explain the Pension Minister's change of face.
Nadine Dorries | 530 c54 (Link to this contribution) I thank the shadow Minister for giving way—I almost thanked ““the Minister”” in a throwback to anoth...
Liam Byrne | 530 c53-4 (Link to this contribution) The debate is extremely important and I am glad that the Secretary of State approached his remarks w...
Ben Gummer | 530 c55 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Liam Byrne | 530 c54-5 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Lady would like to reflect on why, just over 12 months ago, the Government whom she...
Liam Byrne | 530 c56 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman confirm that he has seen the costings given in the parliamentary answer provi...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members will forgive me if I make some progress. I gave way to the hon. Member for West Bromwic...
Liam Byrne | 530 c57 (Link to this contribution) In a moment. We are talking about women in the age group that was asked by a Conservative Governmen...
Harriett Baldwin | 530 c57 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Liam Byrne | 530 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in a moment. Let us hear what the impact of the Government's proposals will be, bec...
Richard Fuller | 530 c56 (Link to this contribution) I have not seen those costings, so the right hon. Gentleman can enlighten me further.
Liam Byrne | 530 c56 (Link to this contribution) The Minister gave an interesting answer, because those costings say that if, for example, we increas...
Anne Begg | 530 c52 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State accept that some women in the group that we are discussing have already ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c52 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend tempts me enormously, but she will forgive me if I do not give in to that temptation....
Jo Swinson | 530 c51-2 (Link to this contribution) I think there is general acceptance that with increased longevity, the pension age needs to be consi...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c51 (Link to this contribution) The only answer is that, so far, it is seven years away for women. I recognise the concerns, but I h...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c52 (Link to this contribution) I fully recognise the hon. Lady's point. It applies to the whole debate. One could argue that even a...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c52 (Link to this contribution) I want to emphasise the point that the hon. Member for Aberdeen South (Dame Anne Begg) made about pe...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c52 (Link to this contribution) I have given way a lot and I am not sure that we are going anywhere new on this. I have repeated mys...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c52 (Link to this contribution) I think that the hon. Lady refers to people who have retired early, at around 57, as far as I can te...
Hywel Williams | 530 c75-6 (Link to this contribution) A large number of people are unable to get an annuity in the first place because they do not have th...
Ben Gummer | 530 c79 (Link to this contribution) What I found surprising about that comment from the right hon. Member for Birmingham, Hodge Hill (Mr...
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c79-80 (Link to this contribution) Back in the 1940s, Aneurin Bevan referred to the ageing of our population as the ““peculiar problem”...
Ben Gummer | 530 c76-8 (Link to this contribution) The salient fact of this debate is that by the time it finishes at 10 o'clock, the average age to wh...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c78-9 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether my hon. Friend picked up on the remark from the right hon. Member for Birmingham, H...
Steve Webb | 530 c81 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c81 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that the Minister wants to intervene, but may I add another statistic? I have given him...
Denis MacShane | 530 c81 (Link to this contribution) I was shocked when a constituent of mine, Mrs G. E. Smith, came in to see my at my last surgery. She...
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c81 (Link to this contribution) I imagine that that woman might have been categorised by the Office for National Statistics, rather ...
Steve Webb | 530 c81 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is making a characteristically fascinating contribution. He is citing diffe...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c74 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady or other Members table an amendment in Committee on the issues that she says she is...
Jenny Willott | 530 c74 (Link to this contribution) We have no idea who will be on the Committee for the Bill before us, so I cannot possibly comment on...
Annette Brooke | 530 c74 (Link to this contribution) I concur with my hon. Friend. The importance of today is that the strength of feeling about this one...
Jenny Willott | 530 c74 (Link to this contribution) I agree. My hon. Friend has spoken in the House in recent weeks on the issue and on her concerns abo...
Anne Begg | 530 c73 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Lady received a large number of e-mails and letters from her constituents wh...
Jenny Willott | 530 c73 (Link to this contribution) To be honest, I cannot remember whether anybody asked me to vote against the Bill. Most writers of t...
Anne Begg | 530 c73 (Link to this contribution) If there are no changes in Committee and the Bill returns to the Floor of the House in the same posi...
Jenny Willott | 530 c73-4 (Link to this contribution) I cannot possibly say what I will do at that stage, because we do not know what shape the Bill will ...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c75 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right about life expectancy numbers. Somebody with a fund who has a poor healt...
Hywel Williams | 530 c74-5 (Link to this contribution) The upshot of the Bill is that many people will have to work longer than they expected, and at short...
Jenny Willott | 530 c70-2 (Link to this contribution) The Bill has been somewhat hijacked by the women's pension age issue, but as the hon. Member for Abe...
Stephen Lloyd | 530 c72 (Link to this contribution) I concur with every single word that my hon. Friend says. Owing to the difficult decisions that the ...
Duncan Hames | 530 c69 (Link to this contribution) In her intervention, the Chair of the Select Committee made the excellent point that some of the wom...
Anne Begg | 530 c69-70 (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more. It is imperative that we get that sorted out now. I am sure that other local...
Steve Webb | 530 c68 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady raises serious points. She is absolutely right—for the basic pension, those credits ar...
Anne Begg | 530 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) So those women will still have to have the 30 years of credits, but in respect of the SERPS element ...
Anne Begg | 530 c68 (Link to this contribution) There are much wider issues with raising the state pension age such as the fact that, towards the en...
Jenny Willott | 530 c73 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree. As the hon. Lady says, the point of Second Reading is that we have the opportuni...
Anne Main | 530 c73 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady, who is making a powerful speech, seems, like me, to agree with an awful lot of the ve...
Jenny Willott | 530 c72-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention, and it will be interesting to hear what the Minister sa...
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c65 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman at least acknowledge, in fairness, that it was the last Labour Government wh...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c65 (Link to this contribution) May I tempt my hon. Friend with a thought about why the right hon. Member for Birmingham, Hodge Hill...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c65 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman and I have known each other for many years and he knows I have the highest ...
Speaker | 530 c65 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for your time constraint.
Jonathan Evans | 530 c65 (Link to this contribution) I am aware that the Forum of Private Business does not like the fact that the Government have not ma...
Anne Begg | 530 c66-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cardiff North (Jonathan Evans), but I will disagree w...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c68 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady share my concern that the healthy life expectancy for men in Scotland is currentl...
Anne Begg | 530 c68 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. The hon. Lady says more eloquently what I was trying to say about displacing people out of p...
Pamela Nash | 530 c68 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree that, as we are coming out of carers week, the Government should remember t...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c61-2 (Link to this contribution) Let me begin by drawing the House's attention to the Register of Members' Financial Interests, which...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c62 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to get my head around the idea of Tony Blair standing at the Dispatch Box and taking his...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c62 (Link to this contribution) Government Members constantly raise the subject of the 75p pension increase. It is not necessarily a...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c62 (Link to this contribution) I will in a moment—unlike the right hon. Member for Birmingham, Hodge Hill, who was not prepared to ...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c62 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Harriett Baldwin | 530 c63 (Link to this contribution) Did my hon. Friend also see last week's Age UK survey, which found that 20% of the women affected by...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c63-5 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, and one of the difficulties in this regard is to do with the first change, to which almost a...
Anne Main | 530 c62 (Link to this contribution) Before my hon. Friend moved on from his powerful previous argument, I wish he had remembered to add ...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c62-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that observation, but I hope she will forgive me for not ...
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c65 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Richard Graham | 530 c58 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is generous to give way again but, with all due respect to him, I am compar...
Liam Byrne | 530 c58 (Link to this contribution) Let us take the hon. Gentleman's second point first. I understand that the proposal for a flat-rate ...
Ben Gummer | 530 c59 (Link to this contribution) In response to an intervention by the hon. Member for Slough (Fiona Mactaggart), the right hon. Gent...
Liam Byrne | 530 c59 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to hear that correction about Baroness Thatcher. I think that the hon. Gentleman would als...
Liam Byrne | 530 c61 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the Minister has raised that point. His own consultation, which closes on Friday, is ...
Speaker | 530 c61 (Link to this contribution) Order. As Members can see, this is a popular debate. Although I am not introducing a time limit at t...
Liam Byrne | 530 c59 (Link to this contribution) I do not know how much attention the hon. Gentleman has been paying to this debate, but we champione...
Alan Reid | 530 c59 (Link to this contribution) I agree that, for a small group of women, the Bill is unfair. However, I was pleased that the Secret...
Liam Byrne | 530 c59-61 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for decoding the Secretary of State's remarks and putting on rec...
Steve Webb | 530 c61 (Link to this contribution) It is unclear whether the right hon. Gentleman is going to vote against Second Reading—he has not sa...
Fiona Mactaggart | 530 c57 (Link to this contribution) I heard the Secretary of State refer in his speech today to legal advice that said that the Governme...
Liam Byrne | 530 c57 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Slough (Fiona Mactaggart), then I will give way to ...
Richard Graham | 530 c58 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman made two comments about how the Bill treats women. He estimated that the co...
Harriett Baldwin | 530 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for finally giving way. I speak with a lot of interest in this matt...
Liam Byrne | 530 c58 (Link to this contribution) Of course. The hon. Lady makes an extremely fair point, and that is why, after the Turner commission...
Liam Byrne | 530 c57 (Link to this contribution) In two minutes. Michelle Mitchell, the charity director of Age UK, has said that"““it's difficult t...
Liam Byrne | 530 c57 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an extremely good point, because I think that that was news to the House. We wo...
John Glen | 530 c87 (Link to this contribution) I would like to open my remarks by reflecting on a tale of two 64-year-olds. My great-grandfather di...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c87 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman accept that it is a gross generalisation to say that this problem has been i...
Jonathan Evans | 530 c87 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members on both sides of the House will have received similar letters. The Labour party's polic...
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay | 530 c87 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely right. The Labour party set out a similar policy of raising the pension age, but ...
Richard Graham | 530 c83-5 (Link to this contribution) Today's debate takes place more than 100 years after the Old Age Pensions Act 1908 was introduced by...
Baroness Elliott of Whitburn Bay | 530 c85-6 (Link to this contribution) This debate is incredibly important to Members on both sides of the House. Before I move on to what ...
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c81-3 (Link to this contribution) I was solving many other problems in 1975—they were so numerous that I cannot think of an example. I...
Julian Sturdy | 530 c91-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to have the opportunity to contribute to such an important debate, and to follow s...
John Glen | 530 c87-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention. I think I will address the thrust of her comments in a f...
Teresa Pearce | 530 c89-91 (Link to this contribution) Like many Members, I have been inundated with e-mails and letters from women who will be affected by...
Nick Boles | 530 c100 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am happy to give way to my hon. Friend—even in mid-sentence.
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c95 (Link to this contribution) Has it occurred to my hon. Friend that there seems to be a mismatch here in respect of this Departme...
Cathy Jamieson | 530 c93-5 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this important debate. Like many hon. Members on both sid...
Richard Drax | 530 c96-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Kilmarnock and Loudoun (Cathy Jamieson)—I hope I have...
Harriett Baldwin | 530 c98 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady mentioned the steps that the last Government took to deal with increasing longevity. D...
Debbie Abrahams | 530 c98 (Link to this contribution) Like other Members, I am encouraged by the agreement across the Chamber, particularly on issues rela...
Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 530 c100 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. He might address my point later in his speech, but does he ag...
Nick Boles | 530 c102 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman, but I fear he misunderstands me: I am not accusing him and his colleague...
Debbie Abrahams | 530 c102 (Link to this contribution) I refer the hon. Gentleman to the Pensions Acts 2007 and 2008.
Nick Boles | 530 c101-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention and he is absolutely right: the contrast is stark and is...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 530 c101 (Link to this contribution) May I declare an interest as a trustee of the Conservative agents' pension fund, and my other regist...
Nick Boles | 530 c100-1 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. Indeed, clarity, simplicity and dependability are what we seek to achieve in all a...
Alex Cunningham | 530 c102 (Link to this contribution) I beg your pardon, Mr Deputy Speaker. Is it ““ideological”” for us to stick up for women who have ha...
Speaker | 530 c102 (Link to this contribution) Order. Unfortunately, I am not responsible, so it is not ““you””. I am sure the hon. Gentleman did n...
Alex Cunningham | 530 c102 (Link to this contribution) You have gone on a lot about ideological things, but is it ideologically bonkers to fight for a fair...
Nick Boles | 530 c102 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady—and remind her that her Government had been in power for 10 and a half years b...
Nick Boles | 530 c102-3 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not give way for the moment; I am in the middle of replying to the previous intervention....
Nick Boles | 530 c103-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman would have more credibility if we had heard, at any point in the past 13 months, ...
Lord Watts | 530 c103 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. No one is saying that. People are saying that the reducti...
Nick Boles | 530 c104 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady's intervention betrays exactly what got her Government—or the Government whom she supp...
Rachel Reeves | 530 c104 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman was here for the speech of my right hon. Friend the Member ...
Nick Boles | 530 c103 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady, but I fear that this man is a lot more substantial than just straw—even if th...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c103 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman not perpetrating the debating technique of erecting a straw man in order to kn...
Nick Boles | 530 c103 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is eloquent, as so many people have been, on behalf of a particular group, and I would...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c103 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has been using a lot of rhetorical questions in this debate. For me, the key ques...
William Bain | 530 c105-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention. The way to get round all the problems, legal or otherwise, is t...
William Bain | 530 c104-5 (Link to this contribution) I would like to say that it is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Grantham and Stamford (Nick ...
Jonathan Reynolds | 530 c111 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a fantastic speech and it is great to listen to him. Does he agree that the...
Alex Cunningham | 530 c111 (Link to this contribution) Could I disagree? I most certainly could not. People in my constituency used to build ships and it h...
Stephen Pound | 530 c111 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting my hon. Friend's fluent and fluid flow. Does he agree that it is insane...
Lord Watts | 530 c110 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that it is also unfair that many of the women we are talking about started...
Mike Crockart | 530 c107-9 (Link to this contribution) I draw the House's attention to my entry in the Register of Members' Financial Interests, which deta...
Rachel Reeves | 530 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) I am sure the hon. Gentleman's constituents in Grantham and Stamford will feel very reassured that h...
Rachel Reeves | 530 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) I have already given way to the hon. Gentleman once, and I will not do so again. All the Members wh...
Steve Webb | 530 c122 (Link to this contribution) We have spent a worthwhile six hours, and I enjoy nothing more than debating pension reform. There w...
Nick Boles | 530 c120 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady give way? This is outrageous—
Rachel Reeves | 530 c118-20 (Link to this contribution) Today's debate has shown the concern and anger that exists at the rapid rise in the state pension ag...
Rachel Reeves | 530 c120 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I look forward to hearing whether the hon. Gentleman really believes that 500,000 women are rou...
Yasmin Qureshi | 530 c116-8 (Link to this contribution) I have been a little bemused by suggestions from Government Members that the previous Labour Governm...
Priti Patel | 530 c115-6 (Link to this contribution) I am going to close my remarks shortly, so I hope that the hon. Lady will forgive me if I do not tak...
Priti Patel | 530 c115 (Link to this contribution) The previous Labour Government had the perfect opportunity to address this issue. Opposition Members...
Priti Patel | 530 c115 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for her remark. It is a fact of life that we are living longer. At the end of ...
Lord Watts | 530 c115 (Link to this contribution) We keep hearing the same arguments, as though Opposition Members have not taken on board the need fo...
Susan Elan Jones | 530 c115 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady rightly makes the point that we are living longer, which is of course something to cel...
Priti Patel | 530 c114-5 (Link to this contribution) I am intrigued by the debate thus far. A range of hon. Members have followed a number of themes. The...
Sheila Gilmore | 530 c112-4 (Link to this contribution) We often hear in pensions debates about the UK having very poor pension provision, but I suggest tha...
Malcolm Wicks | 530 c127 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that. My point was that those who have been working since the age of 15 or 16 in m...
Steve Webb | 530 c126-7 (Link to this contribution) If it had been self-evidently not possible, I think that the right hon. Gentleman would have pointed...
Steve Webb | 530 c127 (Link to this contribution) As I have said, I am happy to engage with the right hon. Gentleman in an open and constructive way. ...
Steve Webb | 530 c127-8 (Link to this contribution) As I have five minutes to respond, I had better not. My hon. Friend the Member for Gloucester made ...
Lord Watts | 530 c125 (Link to this contribution) Is it not a fact that, if the Minister accepted the Opposition's proposals, they would deal with the...
Steve Webb | 530 c125-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for recognising that there is a long-term problem, which not all...
Steve Webb | 530 c124 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady will be aware of the national insurance floor of roughly £100 a week. Many of these mi...
Steve Webb | 530 c124-5 (Link to this contribution) As there were 25 contributions to the debate, I want to try to respond to some of the points that we...
Liam Byrne | 530 c123 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Steve Webb | 530 c123 (Link to this contribution) In a little while; I want to make some progress first. The Bill's third key element—which, again, v...
Eilidh Whiteford | 530 c124 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Minister that this issue has been glossed over in today's debate, but in our debate...
Steve Webb | 530 c123-4 (Link to this contribution) Interestingly, the right hon. Gentleman and his colleague the shadow Minister are saying two differe...
Liam Byrne | 530 c123 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. He is making his remarks with his customary eloquence....
Steve Webb | 530 c123 (Link to this contribution) In a second. [Hon. Members: ““Give way.””] I will give way. The reason there is no money, as the rig...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c47 (Link to this contribution) As I said to the right hon. Member for Birkenhead (Mr Field) and repeat to the right hon. Member for...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 530 c46 (Link to this contribution) Given that the Secretary of State has told the House, and there is no reason to doubt him, that his ...
Iain Duncan Smith | 530 c49 (Link to this contribution) It will disappoint the hon. Lady, but I have no plans to do that.
Liam Byrne | 530 c55-6 (Link to this contribution) I will in a moment. This unfolding chaos has been impressive even for a Government who have preside...
Cathy Jamieson | 530 c96 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes exactly the point that I was about to make. There does indeed seem to be a mism...
Nick Boles | 530 c99-100 (Link to this contribution) First, I should tell Members that I am absolutely not a pensions expert; I have never spoken on the ...
Debbie Abrahams | 530 c98-9 (Link to this contribution) I think that the hon. Lady is referring to the average. It is important for us to consider not just ...
Nick Boles | 530 c120 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Mr Speaker, that in the heat of the moment I did not wait for the hon. Lady to give way...
Liam Byrne | 530 c126 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for finally setting out that legal advice to the House, but he must an...
Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 530 c105 (Link to this contribution) On that point—I speak as a former lawyer—my understanding of the explanation given earlier this afte...
Alex Cunningham | 530 c110-1 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, that is the case. Some of the women in these difficult jobs may not have their health in lat...
Alex Cunningham | 530 c109-10 (Link to this contribution) I am very keen to speak about this issue because it has resulted in my heaviest postbag for some tim...
Speaker | 530 c116 (Link to this contribution) I remind the next speaker that she must finish by 9.30 pm.
Alex Cunningham | 530 c111-2 (Link to this contribution) That is very much the case. I suppose that there will be an additional few years of misery for some ...
Subjects
Age Contributions Capital rules Women Judges Personal savings Low incomes Workplace pensions Pensions State retirement pensions Reform Tax allowances Retirement Uprating
Legislation
Pensions Bill (HL) 2010-12
Link
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