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Lord Davies of Oldham
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My Lords, as I have indicated, that is for the local authorities to initiate. But I am grateful to the noble Lord, because his question gives me the opportunity to indicate to the House how successful the camera programme has been. The number of vehicles speeding at new camera sites fell by 32 per cent last year; the number speeding by more than 15 miles per hour fell by 43 per cent; and average speeds at new sites fell by about 7 per cent. The cameras are having their effect and, as the noble Lord indicated, it is easy to dramatize the inevitable profound irritation that drivers experience when they fall foul of the cameras, but it is not so easy to tap into the great public benefit from the fact that we are saving lives.
My Lords, as I have indicated, that is for the local authorities to initiate. But I am grateful to the noble Lord, because his question gives me the opportunity to indicate to the House how successful the camera programme has been. The number of vehicles speeding at new camera sites fell by 32 per cent last year; the number speeding by more than 15 miles per hour fell by 43 per cent; and average speeds at new sites fell by about 7 per cent. The cameras are having their effect and, as the noble Lord indicated, it is easy to dramatize the inevitable profound irritation that drivers experience when they fall foul of the cameras, but it is not so easy to tap into the great public benefit from the fact that we are saving lives.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Bradshaw
(Liberal Democrat)
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Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. Does he agree that most of the publicity about speed cameras comes from the motoring lobby and motoring press and that the cameras provide a protection for many people? I wonder whether, in order to get a balanced picture, the Government should not instigate some consultation with local people, to see what they think about cameras?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c105-6
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Well, my Lords, Durham has many claims to fame. Other chief constables of course take a different view. We are evaluating the fourth year of the speed camera programme to measure the effect of the cameras, and that will enable us to make a judgment on what at times appear to be alternative views of what is best for the safety of the road travelling public.
Well, my Lords, Durham has many claims to fame. Other chief constables of course take a different view. We are evaluating the fourth year of the speed camera programme to measure the effect of the cameras, and that will enable us to make a judgment on what at times appear to be alternative views of what is best for the safety of the road travelling public.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, while, of course, we accept that speed kills, is my noble friend aware of the interesting fact that the Chief Constable of Durham has a policy of not using fixed speed cameras at all and that the accident figures in Durham compare very favourably with those in other police areas?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c107
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, as I have indicated there are strict limitations on the revenue raising processes from cameras and the way in which the resources can be used. My noble friend will recognise that, important as it is to increase expenditure on road safety, it is also most important that we condition driving behaviour. That is the crucial single factor with regard to accidents—it is well-attested through all research—and therefore we need to take the confidence of the motoring public with us, that the cameras are fulfilling a proper purpose and are in the right places.
My Lords, as I have indicated there are strict limitations on the revenue raising processes from cameras and the way in which the resources can be used. My noble friend will recognise that, important as it is to increase expenditure on road safety, it is also most important that we condition driving behaviour. That is the crucial single factor with regard to accidents—it is well-attested through all research—and therefore we need to take the confidence of the motoring public with us, that the cameras are fulfilling a proper purpose and are in the right places.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Harrison
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, given the Minister’s earlier answer, should we not increase the number of road safety cameras used if thereby more lives are saved and we generate income for local authorities and chief constables, to be used for other good road safety purposes?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c106-7
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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House of Lords
My Lords, it is not about revenue raising, but it is the case that we are particularly concerned about areas in which there are roadworks, because the statistics establish that that is where a number of accidents occur. If the right reverend Prelate is saying that there is an excessive degree of warning on that particular stretch, I shall certainly look into it. But the right reverend Prelate is safely here, so at least we can thank the speed cameras in that respect.
My Lords, it is not about revenue raising, but it is the case that we are particularly concerned about areas in which there are roadworks, because the statistics establish that that is where a number of accidents occur. If the right reverend Prelate is saying that there is an excessive degree of warning on that particular stretch, I shall certainly look into it. But the right reverend Prelate is safely here, so at least we can thank the speed cameras in that respect.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Bishop of Chelmsford
(Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I accept all that the Minister says about the importance of controlling speed and traffic control, but will he help me with a temptation that I face on the A12? In 2.5 miles of serious road repairs outside our house, we have no less than 14 cameras, two of which are situated just at the point of deregulation. Would he help me with the temptation that I might believe that this is as much about revenue raising as it is about speed control?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c107
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, everyone is vulnerable when in control of a vehicle. For a large percentage of the time we are all perfectly secure, but everyone can make a mistake; but we all know the consequences of accumulated mistakes. One offer that we make to those who make mistakes is a speed awareness course which sounds, I know, to many of the general public like an easy option. The only thing that we can attest to is that all members of the public who have undertaken such a course have been very sharply reminded of the dangers of speed and have taken the course very seriously, and it is working to cope with the issue of accumulated points.
My Lords, everyone is vulnerable when in control of a vehicle. For a large percentage of the time we are all perfectly secure, but everyone can make a mistake; but we all know the consequences of accumulated mistakes. One offer that we make to those who make mistakes is a speed awareness course which sounds, I know, to many of the general public like an easy option. The only thing that we can attest to is that all members of the public who have undertaken such a course have been very sharply reminded of the dangers of speed and have taken the course very seriously, and it is working to cope with the issue of accumulated points.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Rotherwick
(Conservative)
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Oral answers to questions
My Lords, does the Minister believe that speed cameras are conditioning drivers to drive more slowly, in the light of the fact that the man from the Department for Transport last night on ““Top Gear”” admitted that he had nine points on his licence for speeding?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c107-8
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, we are awaiting the evaluation of the fourth year of the camera programme and we will take all these matters into consideration. But the noble Lord will recognise that, although there may be frustrations in certain parts of the country about the issue of speed limits, if we are successful in making the general motoring public more aware of the dangers of excessive speed, then that will without a doubt obtain in areas where there are no cameras but where there are speed limits.
My Lords, we are awaiting the evaluation of the fourth year of the camera programme and we will take all these matters into consideration. But the noble Lord will recognise that, although there may be frustrations in certain parts of the country about the issue of speed limits, if we are successful in making the general motoring public more aware of the dangers of excessive speed, then that will without a doubt obtain in areas where there are no cameras but where there are speed limits.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Viscount Tenby
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, does the Minister accept that there are many people living in villages and other vulnerable areas who despair because, due to the somewhat callous and mechanistic nature of the present formula for installing speed cameras, the chances of getting any in their particular area are pretty well nil. Would he therefore undertake with his colleagues to re-examine this formula and perhaps in doing so take on board the useful suggestion made by the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, about local intervention and input?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c106
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, who has identified another important road safety aspect—not the cameras that lead to fines but the cameras or signals that give a warning and are effective in reducing speeds. I believe that he is referring to those signals which flash up the speed at which the approaching car is going. They appear to be very effective indeed, but they are expensive to employ, and where they should be employed is up to local consultation. But the noble Lord has identified an important contribution to road safety.
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, who has identified another important road safety aspect—not the cameras that lead to fines but the cameras or signals that give a warning and are effective in reducing speeds. I believe that he is referring to those signals which flash up the speed at which the approaching car is going. They appear to be very effective indeed, but they are expensive to employ, and where they should be employed is up to local consultation. But the noble Lord has identified an important contribution to road safety.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Stoddart of Swindon
(Independent Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, have the Government made any evaluation of the effectiveness of the roadside speed indicator devices, which show motorists what speed they are doing in a controlled area? If so, could the Minister say what the results have been?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c108
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, it is a statutory requirement that there is an indication of what the speed limit should be close to the camera. I am aware that from time to time it is contended that that does not occur. Sometimes signs can be obscured, and we are concerned about repeater signs for the public so that they are aware of the limits. But I fail to think that there are drivers in this country who see a yellow box very prominently displayed indicating clearly that it is a road camera and do not know that there is a speed limit in force and what that speed limit is.
My Lords, it is a statutory requirement that there is an indication of what the speed limit should be close to the camera. I am aware that from time to time it is contended that that does not occur. Sometimes signs can be obscured, and we are concerned about repeater signs for the public so that they are aware of the limits. But I fail to think that there are drivers in this country who see a yellow box very prominently displayed indicating clearly that it is a road camera and do not know that there is a speed limit in force and what that speed limit is.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Baroness Knight of Collingtree
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, will the Minister encourage an end to the current practice of putting warnings of speed cameras and speed cameras themselves on long stretches of road where there is no indication of the legal speed limit?
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c107
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the department does not issue prescriptive guidance to local authorities about such consultation. Local authorities are expected to consult with communities and other stakeholders, as they would for any other road safety remedial measure. The majority of cameras operating within the safety camera programme are at sites where there is a history of speeding, accidents and casualties. In addition, there is flexibility within the rules to use cameras at sites of concern raised by the community.
My Lords, the department does not issue prescriptive guidance to local authorities about such consultation. Local authorities are expected to consult with communities and other stakeholders, as they would for any other road safety remedial measure. The majority of cameras operating within the safety camera programme are at sites where there is a history of speeding, accidents and casualties. In addition, there is flexibility within the rules to use cameras at sites of concern raised by the community.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Bradshaw
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
What consultation about the future siting of speed cameras has taken place with the local communities involved.
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c105
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
What consultation about the future siting of speed cameras has taken place with the local communities involved.
What consultation about the future siting of speed cameras has taken place with the local communities involved.
Asked by
Lord Bradshaw
(Liberal Democrat)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
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Answered
For answer on
29 November 2005
Answered on
29 November 2005
My Lords, the department does not issue prescriptive guidance to local authorities about such consultation. Local authorities are expected to consult with communities and other stakeholders, as they would for any other road safety remedial measure. The majority of cameras operating within the safety camera programme are at sites where there is a history of speeding, accidents and casualties. In addition, there is flexibility within the rules to use cameras at sites of concern raised by the community.
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Public participation; Speed limits
Date
29 November 2005
Reference
676 c105
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Whether the decision to install safety cameras on highways rests with the local highway authority; and, if not, with which body.
Whether the decision to install safety cameras on highways rests with the local highway authority; and, if not, with which body.
Asked by
Earl of Shrewsbury
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
10 November 2005
Proposals to install safety cameras within the National Safety Camera Programme are made by Safety Camera Partnerships, formed of police, highways authorities, the courts and other stakeholders, in their annual operational case which forms, part of the strict criteria that enable partnerships to reclaim expenditure from fine revenue. Cameras can only be deployed after the local highway authority has confirmed that no other cost-effective environmental or engineering solutions can be implemented to improve road safety. Approval of partnerships’ operational cases rests with the Department for Transport. Police authorities continue to have the ability to install safety cameras, independent of the National Safety Camera Programme, but in such cases cannot reclaim the expenditure from fine revenue.
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Safety; Roads; Speed limits
Date
10 November 2005
Reference
2102; 675 c93-4WA
House
House of Lords
On how many occasions since 20 July have safety cameras been deployed on the A518 between Weston-upon-Trent and Uttoxeter in Staffordshire during (a) the week; and (b) the weekend.
On how many occasions since 20 July have safety cameras been deployed on the A518 between Weston-upon-Trent and Uttoxeter in Staffordshire during (a) the week; and (b) the weekend.
Asked by
Earl of Shrewsbury
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
10 November 2005
The department does not record or keep this information centrally. Further detailed information will be available directly from the partnership who can be contacted via their website at www.staffordshire.gov.uk/cameralifesavers.
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Safety; Roads; Speed limits; Staffordshire; A518
Date
10 November 2005
Reference
2104; 675 c89WA
House
House of Lords
Further to the Written Answer by the Lord Davies of Oldham on 30 June 2004, 663 c22WA, concerning the installation of safety cameras at fatal accident sites, why cameras have not yet been installed at the site of the A23 fatal accident in May where eight people were killed. [HL...
Further to the Written Answer by the Lord Davies of Oldham on 30 June 2004, 663 c22WA, concerning the installation of safety cameras at fatal accident sites, why cameras have not yet been installed at the site of the A23 fatal accident in May where eight people were killed. [HL...
Asked by
Lord Berkeley
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
For answer on
22 July 2004
Answered on
22 July 2004
Subjects
Accidents; Deployment; Cameras; Safety measures; Roads; Speed limits; A23
Date
22 July 2004
Reference
HL 3909; 664 c77WA
House
House of Lords
Further to the Written Answer by the Lord Davies of Oldham on 30 June 2004, 663 c22WA, why cameras have not been installed at the site of the A23 fatal accident in May 2004 where eight people were killed [HL 3783].
Further to the Written Answer by the Lord Davies of Oldham on 30 June 2004, 663 c22WA, why cameras have not been installed at the site of the A23 fatal accident in May 2004 where eight people were killed [HL 3783].
Asked by
Lord Berkeley
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
For answer on
21 July 2004
Answered on
21 July 2004
Subjects
Accidents; Deployment; Cameras; Safety measures; Roads; Speed limits; A23
Date
21 July 2004
Reference
HL 3783; 664 c57WA
House
House of Lords
Whether they will provide information on locations of present and proposed SPECS speed cameras; and whether they will keep that list up-to-date on the Department for Transport's website [HL 1514].
Whether they will provide information on locations of present and proposed SPECS speed cameras; and whether they will keep that list up-to-date on the Department for Transport's website [HL 1514].
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
For answer on
16 March 2004
Answered on
16 March 2004
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Deployment; Cameras; Department for Transport; Internet; Location; Roads; Speed limits
Date
16 March 2004
Reference
HL 1514; 659 c29WA
House
House of Lords
Whether SPECS speed cameras have been permanently installed on roads other than the motorway network [HL 1516].
Whether SPECS speed cameras have been permanently installed on roads other than the motorway network [HL 1516].
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
For answer on
16 March 2004
Answered on
16 March 2004
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Roads; Speed limits
Date
16 March 2004
Reference
HL 1516; 659 c30WA
House
House of Lords
Whether Department for Transport guidance specifies that SPECS speed cameras should be visible. [HL 1047].
Whether Department for Transport guidance specifies that SPECS speed cameras should be visible. [HL 1047].
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
For answer on
11 February 2004
Answered on
11 February 2004
Subjects
Deployment; Cameras; Roads; Speed limits
Date
11 February 2004
Reference
HL 1047; 657 c166WA
House
House of Lords
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Clinton-Davis
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
To ask Her Majesty's Government what instructions have been given to United Kingdom airlines concerning sky marshals.
Subjects
Aviation; Deployment; Aircraft; Crew; Airlines; Debates; House of Lords; Security; Sky marshals
Date
7 January 2004
Reference
656 c175
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Subjects
Aviation; Deployment; Aircraft; Crew; Airlines; Debates; House of Lords; Security; Sky marshals
Date
7 January 2004
Reference
656 c175
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty's Government what instructions have been given to United Kingdom airlines concerning sky marshals.
To ask Her Majesty's Government what instructions have been given to United Kingdom airlines concerning sky marshals.
Asked by
Lord Clinton-Davis
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
For answer on
7 January 2004
Answered on
7 January 2004
Subjects
Aviation; Deployment; Aircraft; Crew; Airlines; Debates; House of Lords; Security; Sky marshals
Date
7 January 2004
Reference
656 c175
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords