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We may have had our first champagne moment, given that we all agree—and my hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government says that he is buying. Perhaps hon. Members misunderstand the new clause’s intention. It has not been introduced in the spirit of party political advantage—it is the right thing...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1137-8
House
House of Commons

Like my hon. Friends the Members for Wigan (Mr. Turner) and for High Peak (Tom Levitt), I was one of the defenders of elections by thirds in Committee, and I am delighted that the Minister has tabled the amendments that we are discussing today. I will not rehearse the arguments...

Member
Andrew Gwynne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1171
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation of the new clauses and amendments. I read them carefully when they were tabled and started to wonder about their purpose, which he helpfully clarified. I have some questions about the measures because I have been in touch with the Local...

Member
Alistair Burt (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1154-5
House
House of Commons

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I congratulate the hon. Member for North-East Bedfordshire (Alistair Burt) on his questions. As ever, he has clearly done his research, and he has given me the opportunity to allay the fears that the Local Government Association expressed to him. He asked whether these powers...

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1158-9
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member for Plymouth, Devonport (Alison Seabeck) raises an interesting point, so yes, I will ask the Minister, as my hon. Friend the Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill) seemed unable to answer me; I was quite shocked. [Interruption.] Fifteen guineas? Does ““connected with”” mean, in law, owned...

Member
Michael Fabricant (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1157
House
House of Commons

In the brief time available to me, I shall attempt to respond to the points raised by hon. Members. The hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) is clearly a Yorkshireman. He stated what he thinks, and he thinks we should get rid of the Standards Board lock, stock and barrel....

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1213-5
House
House of Commons

There we are: right at the death, my hon. Friend provides yet another useful contribution, as he has consistently done. It is perfectly sensible to suggest that this might not be an either/or situation. He is right to argue for the keeping of the patient voice. The matter should be...

Member
Alistair Burt (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1241
House
House of Commons

One important argument about the benefits of the old committee system is that it brought experience to so-called back-bench councillors, or front-line councillors as many people refer to them, but I believe that the overview and scrutiny process that is now embedding provides that experience. The process can increasingly involve...

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1203-4
House
House of Commons

indicated dissent.

Member
Philip Davies (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1204
House
House of Commons

I did not say that local authorities supported that model, but that the idea had come from them. That is a different matter, but the answer to his question is embodied in the strong executive and Liberal Democrat leader of Cornwall county council. I could also speak about Stockton, Durham...

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1203
House
House of Commons

I of course endorse everything that my hon. Friend the Member for North-East Bedfordshire (Alistair Burt) said, but I speak in support of amendment No. 259, in my name. It would delete clause 51 and the time limit for holding referendums. Clause 51 states:"““A local authority…in England may not hold...

Member
Philip Davies (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1198-9
House
House of Commons

The new clause and the associated amendments provide clarity about handling community governance petitions and reviews generally. In future, the Secretary of State will have no role in decisions about the creation, abolition or modification of parish councils. Those will be truly local decisions, as they should be. The Bill...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1184-5
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend once again takes the opportunity to promote the case for Stoke-on-Trent, and I commend her for that. Only two local authorities in this country present separate cases. Stoke-on-Trent is the only one to have adopted the elected mayor with the city manager model, and that is different...

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1200-1
House
House of Commons

What makes the Minister think that the models that he has chosen this time will have a higher ratio of success than last time? He has already said that the Stoke model had not succeeded, so why does he believe that central direction is essential to the process?

Member
Lord Stunell (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1201
House
House of Commons

First, in Stoke, Doncaster and elsewhere it is important that we separate the office holder from the office. The hon. Member for Shipley referred to a petition in Doncaster. I am not sure what it has to do with him as Doncaster is not in his bit of the county,...

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1201
House
House of Commons

I agree with every word of the last couple of paragraphs uttered by my hon. Friend the Minister, and that is why I believe that this is such a good Bill. Throughout the debate, we have acknowledged that it extends the range of choices available to local authorities. It does...

Member
Tom Levitt (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1202
House
House of Commons

I will of course give way to my hon. Friend, as she represents Stoke, which has a unique system.

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1200
House
House of Commons

I am listening carefully to my hon. Friend’s remarks, but Stoke-on-Trent is in a category all of its own, because of the system of a council manager and an elected mayor, and that was mentioned specifically in the White Paper. Can he reassure me that arrangements are in hand to...

Member
Joan Walley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1200
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Ironically—although perhaps it is not so surprising—we are having a topsy turvy debate. The hon. Member for North-East Bedfordshire claims that his proposals would benefit devolution, even though they do not. To be fair to the hon. Member for Hazel Grove, his proposals do...

Member
Phil Woolas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1202
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way?

Member
Lord Stunell (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 May 2007
Reference
460 c1202
House
House of Commons