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Lords debate on motion to consider the Draft National Planning Policy Framework. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Baroness Hanham
Answering member
Lord McKenzie of Luton
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Type
Debates
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c345-88GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have not spoken in a debate in the Moses Room before: it is an interesting experience. The Minister, in opening this debate, talked about the developments that had to take place in the post-war period to repair the bomb damage and other ravages of Nazi Germany upon...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c366-7GC
House
House of Lords

If the answer is, regretfully, no, I hope that there will at least be the opportunity to debate the final document.

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c387GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that is not in my hands, it is in the hands of the business managers, but I hear what my noble friends have said.

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c387GC
House
House of Lords

I do not think my noble friend has answered the question that I put to her. What is the status of the local plans that have been adopted by local authorities? Some of them will have been adopted quite a long time ago. Will they automatically become out of date...

Member
Lord Reay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c387GC
House
House of Lords

I am most grateful to my noble friend for giving way. The noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, asked about parliamentary participation in the final stage of the revised plan. My noble friend indicated earlier that there would be a proper opportunity for the revised plan to be debated on the Floor...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c386GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister, the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, for promoting and sponsoring this debate and for giving us a chance for yet another go at a debate on the NPPF. It has been a wide-ranging debate. My noble friend Lady Whitaker raised design issues; we had several...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c379-83GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it seems, like most noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, that I too must declare that I am a landowner. I am also a farmer—although more of a lifestyle farmer than some of the noble farmers who are here today. I should declare to those noble...

Member
Lord Strasburger (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c377-9GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as a landowner. I refer to the comment by the Minister at the beginning of the debate that everything that was said this afternoon would be taken into account when considering the final version of the NPPF. However, there is no opportunity for us...

Member
Lord Avebury (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c373-7GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of Newcastle City Council. I am on the board on One North East, a member of English Heritage and also of the National Trust. I agree absolutely with what my noble friend Lord Cormack has said about the nature of the...

Member
Lord Shipley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c369-72GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is an important document that will make a considerable difference to the way we live. Not surprisingly, we have had a large number of comments and objections, which should not be underrated. First, I tell the Minister that I am quite favourable to the new structure of...

Member
Lord Williamson of Horton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c372-3GC
House
House of Lords

I will give my noble friend an example of a horrible use of the word ““sustainable”” in practice. In Suffolk, where I live, the Suffolk Coastal District Council fairly recently—within the past five years—said that if you want to convert a farm building into a house it must be used...

Member
Lord Marlesford (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c367GC
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend for that lengthy intervention; I was about to ask him if he would give way. The two criteria that I mentioned have merit, but in deciding on them, planners must take into account the nature of the historic rural environment in which the...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c367-9GC
House
House of Lords

I declare that I am chief executive of London First, a business membership organisation that includes property developers. Given the previous two contributions, I should perhaps also declare my past involvement in the regeneration of two textile mills in Blackburn. I enter the debate having missed the previous debate two...

Member
Baroness Valentine (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c364-6GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as a landowner. We are lucky—perhaps the Minister is not so lucky—to be having this second bite of the cherry following our planning debate on 13 October. I am relieved, myself, to be losing the PPSs and the PPGs and starting again with 50...

Member
Lord Reay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c355-8GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, am very grateful to the noble Baroness for giving us the opportunity to discuss the provisions of the National Planning Policy Framework. I welcome very much the rationalisation and simplification of our planning procedures that will follow from it. Nevertheless, the point of discussing a draft...

Member
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c353-5GC
House
House of Lords

The answer to that is no, quite categorically. It is not going to be out of date but the NPPF will then be a matter that has to be taken into account alongside it. I hope that I have dealt with the more general aspects. If there are specific aspects...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c388GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the planning inspectorate will be responsible for issuing the certificates and also for ensuring that the fast-tracking of plans is put in hand.

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c388GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Andrews, and it is always very difficult to follow a contribution as good as hers—but I will try. I agree with a great deal of what has been said on all sides in this debate. If the...

Member
Lord Greaves (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c361-4GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, for creating this second opportunity to look at some of the complex, wide-ranging issues raised in the National Planning Policy Framework. I was impressed by her saying how important it was to have a positive planning statement and...

Member
Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 October 2011
Reference
731 c358-61GC
House
House of Lords