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I beg to move,

That this House believes that the Government should bring forward proposals to repeal the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011.

The motion, which stands in my name and that of my hon. Friend the Member for South Dorset (Richard Drax) and other Members of this House, is to review and...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1069
House
House of Commons

On my hon. Friend’s remarks about the coalition, I have read his piece on the ConservativeHome website, and perhaps he would be good enough to look at mine, because I very much agree with him. The problem is not just the question of institutional issues; it is also the practical...

Member
William Cash (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1070
House
House of Commons

It is not for me to speak for the Liberal Democrats—unfortunately they seem to be absent from the Chamber. May I say that I always read my hon. Friend’s speeches with the closest possible attention? Both he and I were, of course, in coalition in our beloved Conservative party with...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 cc1070-1
House
House of Commons

Is the logical extension of the hon. Gentleman’s argument that President Obama should be given the power to decide to call an election when he feels it appropriate, rather than when the constitution states that it should take place? Does he think that the President’s internment in a prison or...

Member
Graham Allen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1071
House
House of Commons

The whole point is that the American system is completely different from ours, so it would be unwise for me or anyone else in this House to lecture President Obama on when he should go. Actually, the United States does have a system whereby a President can be removed through...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1071
House
House of Commons

I agree with much of what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but I think his comment about the former Prime Minister Tony Blair was a little unfair. I cannot see that particular relationship with the United States, but does the hon. Gentleman see such a relationship in respect of the...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1071
House
House of Commons

I take back that cheap shot against Tony Blair—it was perhaps unnecessary—and I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman. Over the centuries, we have established a pretty good system. I think we are the only country in Europe never to have been a police state or had a police state...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1071
House
House of Commons

When President Nixon and Spiro Agnew resigned, the United States ended up with a President and Vice-President who had been elected by Congress and not by a mandate of the people. It is therefore possible to have a change of power without an election there, which would not happen here.

Member
Robert Syms (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1071
House
House of Commons

Exactly; that is a very fair point.

Our own beloved Mark Darcy, a BBC journalist who is really an ornament of the constitution, put it very well when he said that there was a danger under the Act of Parliaments

“oscillating between hyperactivity and torpor” .

We appear to be at the torpid...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 cc1071-2
House
House of Commons

I am following the hon. Gentleman’s argument carefully. Does he agree that, for the purposes of consistency across the United Kingdom, if we were to go back to the old system and give this power back to the Prime Minister, that arrangement should also apply to the devolved Administrations? Should...

Member
Lord Dodds of Duncairn (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1072
House
House of Commons

In my personal view, that is a fair point. The right hon. Gentleman has intervened at a good point, because I was about to say that our insistence on a five-year Parliament has resulted in delaying elections in the devolved Administrations. That delay was proposed because, when we had an...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1072
House
House of Commons

Is my hon. Friend saying not only that he is against fixed-term Parliaments but that the flexibility to go up to five years should be removed? Is he saying that, in a system in which an election could occur at any time, it should be called only within a four-year...

Member
Greg Knight (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1072
House
House of Commons

No, I am not saying that. I think we should simply go back to the old system and the Prime Minister should be able to call an election when it is appropriate. I agree, however, that if we were going to have a fixed term, a four-year one would be...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1072
House
House of Commons

Three years—

Member
Lord Brennan of Canton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1072
House
House of Commons

Sorry, three years and 10 months. So if we stick with this Act, in the next century we could lose six general elections—that is six occasions on which the people are given a real choice. In short, the greater flexibility that the power of Dissolution allows is to the advantage...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 cc1072-3
House
House of Commons

That points exactly to the other argument on this issue. Had the former Prime Minister gone to the country on that date, he probably would have won a general election. The Government have an enormous power in being able to choose an election date, and is that not the other...

Member
Peter Bone (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1073
House
House of Commons

That is the other side of the coin, which is why the Liberal party, which always delights in its own rationality, came up with this idea of fixed-term Parliaments. It is strange that the Liberal party, which is so apparently rational in all respects, is so unpopular with the people—I...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1073
House
House of Commons

Is it not entirely unfair to criticise the Liberal Democrats when they are not here to defend themselves?

Member
Lord Brennan of Canton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1073
House
House of Commons

That is a good point. [Interruption.] Why be fair in politics anyway—they are not.

This constitutional change was not in our manifesto, although I believe it was in both the Labour and Lib Dem manifestos. Interestingly, the Liberals maintained that fixed-term Parliaments would

“ensure that the Prime Minister of the day cannot...

Member
Edward Leigh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 cc1073-4
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is doing jolly well and I love the things that he is saying, but before he moves on, will he look for a moment at the length of time between the election and getting a winner in using the first-past-the-post system? It was five days then. Imagine...

Member
Andrew Turner (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2014
Reference
586 c1074
House
House of Commons