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Lords second reading. Committee negatived. Standing Order 44 having been dispensed with, Lords third reading. Bill passed.

Lead member
Lord Harlech
Answering member
Lord Tunnicliffe
Department
Treasury
Type
Debates on bills
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1099-1117
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in the face of unprecedented global headwinds, my right honourable friend the Chancellor delivered an Autumn Budget Statement acknowledging the difficult decisions that this Government must take to tackle the cost of living crisis and restore faith in the UK’s economic credibility. To address head-on the issues that...

Member
Lord Harlech (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1099-1102
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his introduction. This is clearly a niche debate—even more niche than some. I will make a general point and then move on to a specific issue that, to no one’s surprise, will involve pensioners.

For the general point, I want to cast our minds...

Member
Lord Davies of Brixton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1102-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to unexpectedly follow the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Brixton, although I regret that we will not hear from the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of St Albans, who I think would have addressed some of the social justice issues on which I will...

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1103-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this now short debate and to place on record some concerns and observations from a Northern Ireland perspective.

I had expected to be a little less gracious in my comments towards His Majesty’s Government than I am about to be. However, yesterday’s...

Member
Lord Rogan (Ulster Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1105-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by picking up a point made by the noble Lord, Lord Rogan. I was so shocked to learn earlier that energy payments had not been received by people in Northern Ireland. Following that debate, I called a number of friends to discuss the matter. Can the...

Member
Baroness Kramer (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1108-1111
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by welcoming the noble Lord, Lord Harlech, to his place for what I think is his first piece of Treasury legislation. I get the impression that he will probably end up with an awfully large number of Treasury SIs: meet the cast that he will face,...

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1109-1113
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a privilege to close this debate on the Finance Bill on behalf of the Government. I thank all noble Lords for their constructive and considered contributions and the welcome to the Dispatch Box. I will try to address many of the points raised in today’s debate,...

Member
Lord Harlech (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1112-4
House
House of Lords

Whoever wrote the brief clearly assumed I was going to talk about public service pensions, but I conspicuously did not mention them, as they are not relevant to this Bill. I do not want to dump an official in it, but I did not raise that issue; I raised a...

Member
Lord Davies of Brixton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 c1114
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord for the intervention. I will have to go back and check Hansard. I heard him raise pensions in general but also public sector pensions, but if I am wrong, I apologise, and I stand to be corrected.

All noble Lords raised the issue of the personal...

Member
Lord Harlech (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1114-5
House
House of Lords

I should perhaps declare my position as a vice-president of the Local Government Association. The Minister said that he expects councils to exercise restraint with regard to council tax rises. However, the Government’s own forecasts, based on the provisional local government finance settlement released this week, indicate that they are...

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 c1115
House
House of Lords

I will have to disagree with the noble Baroness. I did not say that councils were not going to increase council tax rates but that we expect them to show restraint.

The issue of public sector pay was raised by the noble Baronesses, Lady Bennett and Lady Kramer, and the noble...

Member
Lord Harlech (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1115-6
House
House of Lords

Does the Minister deny the almost obvious fact that none of these big oil companies is going to pay a penny more? He correctly explained how they will get to that not paying a penny more, but the tax is having no impact.

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 c1116
House
House of Lords

I do not have a crystal ball so I cannot say whether there will be an impact but we want to be careful not to disincentivise investment to move away from fossil fuels.

Member
Lord Harlech (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 c1116
House
House of Lords

My understanding is that the present investment programmes that they had before this tax came out just carried forward, with a limit but well behind, the relief on so-called investment— because it is not fresh investment—which will offset any extra tax that they are likely to pay. I do not...

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 c1116
House
House of Lords

I am sorry; I do not understand the question.

The noble Lord, Lord Tunnicliffe, raised the issue of non-dom status. It is important to recognise that non-doms play an important role in funding our public services through their tax contributions. In the year ending 2021, the most recent full year for...

Member
Lord Harlech (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
20 December 2022
Reference
826 cc1116-7
House
House of Lords

To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer, how many people above state pension age were paying income tax in each financial year from 2009-10 to 2021-22.

Asked by
Jonathan Ashworth (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Answering body
Treasury
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
14 December 2022
Reference
107100
House
House of Commons

To ask His Majesty's Government what plans they have for the future of income tax for the next five financial years; and what assessment they have made of how state pensions will be affected by that tax.

Asked by
Lord Taylor of Warwick (Non-affiliated)
Answering body
Treasury
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
14 December 2022
Reference
HL3922
House
House of Lords

The Finance Bill is a government bill intended to give lasting statutory effect to the tax measures announced in the November 2022 autumn statement. The bill completed its passage through the House of Commons, unamended, on 30 November 2022 and was introduced in the House of Lords on 1 December...

Type
Lords Library Briefings - Bills
Date
8 December 2022
Reference
LLN-2022-0057
Laid by
James Cartlidge
Department
Treasury
Type
Statutory instruments
Notes
Appeared in the Vote as a correction on 8 December 2022.
Date
7 December 2022
Reference
SI 2022/1288
House
House of Commons