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Lords statement on the European Council held in Brussels on 29-30 October 2009.

Lead member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
Department
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c26-38
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will come to the charge sheet in a moment. Our declining influence has flowed from 12 years of policies that have been commended to the House by this Government. We signed the Social Chapter for no gain in return. We gave up our budget rebate for nothing...

Member
Lord Strathclyde (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c29-30
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not want to get involved in the party political bickering that is going on this afternoon, but I have one question. We have heard throughout the weekend, and before the weekend, that the Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary have been lobbying for Mr Blair to...

Member
Lord Stoddart of Swindon (Independent Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c35
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the president of the European Council will certainly preside over meetings of the European Council, but it is also widely recognised that we need someone who is able to bring greater coherence and consistency to the actions of the EU and the European Council. I think that that...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c35-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does my noble friend share my puzzlement at the lack of interest regarding this important Statement on the opposition Benches—with one noble, albeit eccentric, exception—particularly given that the Liberal Democrats pretend to have a huge interest in Europe and its development? Perhaps they believe that the noble Lord,...

Member
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c36
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I like to think that there have not been many participants from the opposition Benches because everyone agrees that this is an excellent Statement and that the outcome of the Council was absolutely as good as it should have been. As for the president of the Council, I...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c36
House
House of Lords

My Lords, is it not rather sad that, apart from the three Front Benches and the noble Lord, Lord Stoddart, the only comments that we have heard on this issue from the government Back Benches have been snide remarks about the opposition parties? Is this not rather similar to what...

Member
Lord Jopling (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c36-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is not for me to comment on what happens in the other place, but I will reflect on the comments that have been made from the Benches behind me. I think that my noble friends’ concern is that the Opposition’s policy on the European Union does not...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c37
House
House of Lords

My Lords, after listening to the contributions so far, I am beginning to wonder how many noble Lords have actually read or remembered what was in the Lisbon treaty itself. Does the Leader of the House agree that there is a danger that those who support a particular candidate might...

Member
Lord Grenfell (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c37
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for bringing us back to the realities of the Lisbon treaty. We are at a crossroads, as another noble friend said earlier. It is possible that the Lisbon treaty will be ratified this week. I hope that that will ensure that,...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c37
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the Leader of the House agree that, in a House that prides itself on being different from the other place—playing a different role in a different way—the regular repetition of Statements made in the other place leads to scenes that make us much more like the other...

Member
Lord Wallace of Saltaire (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c37
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have a deal of sympathy with the noble Lord when it comes to Statements. Perhaps it would be useful for the Procedure Committee, the usual channels or the most appropriate body to consider the matter in the not-too-distant future. A significant time is spent on Statements that...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c37-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as someone who has served at least as long as any other Minister since 1972 on the Budget Council of the European Union. This afternoon’s exchanges have included those supporting the Front Bench opposite saying how well the Front Bench is doing and how...

Member
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c35
House
House of Lords

Yes, my Lords. We forget any aspect of our history at our peril. Like many noble Lords, I lived through the years when we were, in a way, outcasts in the European Union at meetings of the European Commission and at various Council meetings. We simply could not have our...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c34-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I believe that we probably have six months or so before a general election, and I would not wish to prejudge the views and voices of the British people at that election. Like the noble Lord, I am acutely aware of what the polls say. Quite honestly, however,...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c35
House
House of Lords

My Lords, is the Minister aware that I am somebody who approaches Europe with a fairly open mind and wants to listen to constructive views, from wherever they come? Does she share my dismay that, having listened to what I can only describe as the diatribe from the noble Lord,...

Member
Lord Tomlinson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c34
House
House of Lords

Yes, my Lords, I agree with the comments made by my noble friend and a number of my other noble friends. With the world working in blocs—with a powerful United States and a powerful China—with climate change, and with what we have gone through in the economic crisis, it is...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c33-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we are perhaps six months from an election in which the Official Opposition hope to become the Government. It is therefore rather sad that the spokesman for the Opposition, the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, could not bring himself to say anything positive—not a scintilla—about the European Union, an...

Member
Lord Anderson of Swansea (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c34
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have an awful lot to agree with this afternoon. Yes, it is a great shame because there is much substance in the conclusions of the Council. That is the case at every Council but, globally, this Council is particularly important because it was dealing with the key...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c34
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Council’s agreements on a schedule for cuts in carbon emissions and on adaptation aid to developing countries represent substantial and encouraging progress and a very good basis for further development at Copenhagen. Is it not clear to my noble friend—it certainly is to me—that these advances owe...

Member
Lord Kinnock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2009
Reference
714 c33
House
House of Lords