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Lords motion to take note of the case for local regeneration of former industrial areas across the whole United Kingdom, and the challenges constraining such regeneration, including in relation to local government. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top
Answering member
Baroness Swinburne
Department
Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities
Type
Debates
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1703-1732
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great privilege and pleasure to introduce this debate, partly, of course, because it gives me the chance to talk about the north-east again, the contribution that previous generations from that region have made to the prosperity of this country, and what we can do now—in...

Member
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1703-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong, for initiating the debate. I know she cares a great deal about these issues and the local communities they affect, many of which are in very challenged circumstances.

I start with a telling story that encapsulates what happened in one of our...

Member
Lord Mawson (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1706-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the brave and challenging speech of the noble Lord, Lord Mawson. He led me to reflect on the impact of the first past the post electoral system in creating one-party states in local government, with some of the outcomes that he outlined....

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1707-1712
House
House of Lords

It is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett of Manor Castle. I did not agree with absolutely everything she said but I welcome the fact that she has recently visited the north-east. I am glad that she gets the positive impression of the place that she has...

Member
Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1712-4
House
House of Lords

I thank my noble friend Lady Armstrong for initiating this debate and for her powerful and moving introduction. My noble friend Lady Chapman referred to listening to her when she was a younger woman and being influenced by her. At the risk of turning this into a sketch by John...

Member
Baroness Donaghy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1714-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the place that shaped me most as a priest in the Church of England was the parish of Holy Trinity North Ormesby in Middlesbrough at the turn of the millennium, so it was a simple delight and joy to hear the noble Baroness, Lady Chapman, speak about so...

Member
Bishop of Norwich (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1715-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong, for enabling us to have this important debate. I remind the House that I am a vice-president of the Local Government Association. It has been a helpful and thought-provoking debate. Some very important points have been made and some very interesting...

Member
Lord Shipley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1718-1720
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend Lady Armstrong on securing this important debate. I first met her back in 1997, after the general election; she was incredibly kind to me then and has inspired me ever since, so

I thank her for that. I thank the noble Lord, Lord...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1720-4
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong of Hill Top, for tabling this important debate on local regeneration of former industrial areas across the whole of the United Kingdom. We have visited a very large swathe of the United Kingdom in today’s debate, also talking about the challenges constraining such...

Member
Baroness Swinburne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1724-6
House
House of Lords

The Secretary of State made an outrageous statement this week about local authorities using consultants. They are used mostly to put together the very bids that the noble Baroness just set out. Can she please take back to the Secretary of State that it is absolutely wrong to criticise local...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1726
House
House of Lords

I give the noble Baroness that assurance: I will take that back to the department. It is my first week in the department, so I do not have an answer for her now, but I will speak to the civil servants and my Secretary of State.

I will continue. The settlement...

Member
Baroness Swinburne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1726-9
House
House of Lords

I in no way wish to besmirch those on the panel that conducted the report—they did what they were asked to do—but the report has raised more questions than it has answered and leaves an awful lot still in doubt. It says that

“the governance and financial management arrangements are not...

Member
Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1728
House
House of Lords

I will certainly commit to making sure we follow up on this in detail to the noble Baroness. Given that publication is imminent, I hope we can follow up as and when that happens.

Member
Baroness Swinburne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1728
House
House of Lords

My Lords—

Member
Lord Shipley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1728
House
House of Lords

I literally have only a minute and a half to finish, and I have about seven responses.

Member
Baroness Swinburne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1728
House
House of Lords

I will happily wait a bit longer if that helps. As part of that letter, because the Minister has said that it is not the job of the NAO to audit this body, will she tell the House whose responsibility audit is?

Member
Lord Shipley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1728
House
House of Lords

As I have just agreed, I will come back to noble Lords with a response on this, and we can follow up in detail.

I will try to flip through a few points; I will not be able to do them justice, given that we have 45 seconds. The reality here...

Member
Baroness Swinburne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 cc1728-1730
House
House of Lords

Can I just make a correction? I asked about not the towns fund but the levelling up fund. Maybe the Minister can write to us and just tell us what percentage of money has actually been spent, and what that might tell us about the machinery of the state and...

Member
Lord Mawson (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1730
House
House of Lords

As a Minister in the department, I want to know that answer, so I will do that.

4.49 pm

Member
Baroness Swinburne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 March 2024
Reference
836 c1730
House
House of Lords