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Lords committee stage. Clauses 1 to 17 agreed to. Schedule 1 agreed to. Clauses 18 to 20 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.

Lead member
Baroness Scott of Bybrook
Answering member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock
Department
Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities
Type
Debates on bills; Committee proceedings
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc93-136GC
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Ravensdale

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 25, at end insert—

“(za) the chargeable day falls after the day on which qualifying energy efficiency improvements are completed,”

Member's explanatory statement

This amendment, and others to Clause 1 in the name of Lord Ravensdale, would allow qualifying energy efficiency improvements a time-unlimited level...

Member
Lord Ravensdale (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c93GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendments 1, 3 and 4. I apologise to noble Lords for not being present for the opening speeches of Second Reading and therefore being unable to make my points then. However, I was present for the rest of the debate and wrote to...

Member
Lord Ravensdale (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc93-4GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have two amendments in this group, to which the noble and learned Lord, Lord Etherton, who cannot be with us because he is arguing his case across the way in the Chamber, has added his name. I declare that I am a member of the Rating Surveyors’...

Member
Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc94-5GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have Amendment 5 in this group. Its purpose is to probe the expiration date for heat network relief. For example, why have the Government come up with 2030 in this respect? As I said at Second Reading, we very much welcome the introduction of heat network relief...

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc95-6GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, at the outset of the debate I remind the Committee that I have relevant interests as a councillor and as a vice-president of the Local Government Association.

This group of amendments is significant because it focuses our attention on energy efficiency and on how the business rates system could...

Member
Baroness Pinnock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc96-7GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I start by welcoming our new Deputy Chairman of Committees on his first outing today. I think that I am allowed to say that—anyway, I have said it.

These amendments from the noble Lord, Lord Ravensdale, the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Etherton, and...

Member
Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc97-8GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will continue. The 12-month relief will provide a breathing space for the investment to start to generate returns before business rates have to be paid. I know that some feel that 12 months is not long enough to incentivise the types of major refurbishment and improvement often...

Member
Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc98-9GC
House
House of Lords

The Minister mentioned regulations following Royal Assent and I am happy with that, but could she confirm that this will have a consultation process attached to it? She also referred to something that I interpreted as a post-legislative review. What is the framework for that in this instance?

Member
Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c99GC
House
House of Lords

On the regulations, we are consulting at the moment and that will be discussed afterwards. If noble Lords want to put anything in, I suggest they look on GOV.UK. I shall sit down so that the noble Earl can ask his second question because I did not quite pick it...

Member
Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c99GC
House
House of Lords

It was about the post-legislative review and its framework, in so far as it would apply to the workings of the Bill once it gets Royal Assent.

Member
Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c99GC
House
House of Lords

As far as I know, we do not have a framework yet, but as soon as we have—I assume it will go out to some sort of consultation—I shall make sure that noble Lords are aware of when it is issued.

Member
Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c99GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, made a compelling argument for a general extension of improvement relief, as did the noble Baronesses, Lady Pinnock and Lady Hayman, for extending heat network relief. For me, this is all about joining the dots across the legislation, so that we have a...

Member
Lord Ravensdale (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc99-100GC
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Pinnock

7: Clause 5, page 16, line 4, leave out “third” and insert “second”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment would require central non-domestic rating lists to be compiled every two years.

Member
Baroness Pinnock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c100GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Shipley and I have Amendments 7, 9 and 11 in this group, all of which seek to achieve the same end; namely, that the revaluation period be reduced to two years. The Minister and the Bill team have been very generous with their time...

Member
Baroness Pinnock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc100-1GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have four amendments in this group, of which Amendments 8, 10 and 13 relate to the matter explained by the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock. Amendment 14 is a little different and to do with downward-only transition.

Before I go any further, I should have thanked the Minister earlier...

Member
Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc101-2GC
House
House of Lords

I take a slightly different position. I support these amendments, but I want to introduce a brief note of caution. The case for a reduction in the frequency of updating rateable values has been extremely well made, but I think experts should have a voice in the proposal. I think...

Member
Lord Thurlow (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 c102GC
House
House of Lords

My name appears on three of the amendments in this group. I think that the case made by the noble Lord, Lord Thurlow, is very strong. We have to be certain. I believe a reduction from three years to two years—and, in an ideal world, to one year—would be the...

Member
Lord Shipley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc102-3GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock, for introducing this group with Amendment 7, which seeks to change the Bill so that lists must be produced every two years instead of three. Today’s discussion has demonstrated that noble Lords think that this needs to be revisited and that...

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc103-4GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this group of amendments takes us to the heart of the Bill; namely, our commitment to modernise the business rates system through more frequent revaluations. Amendments 7 to 13, from the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock, the noble Lords, Lord Shipley and Lord Thurlow, the noble Earl, Lord Lytton,...

Member
Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2023
Reference
831 cc104-5GC
House
House of Lords