To ask His Majesty's Government what steps they are taking to reduce cybersecurity risks arising from the continued use of legacy IT systems in the public sector.

To ask His Majesty's Government what steps they are taking to reduce cybersecurity risks arising from the continued use of legacy IT systems in the public sector.

Lords second reading. Agreed to on question. Lords motion that the bill be committed to a Grand Committee and instruction on order of clauses to be taken. Agreed to on question.

Lords second reading. Agreed to on question. Lords motion that the bill be committed to a Grand Committee and instruction on order of clauses to be taken. Agreed to on question.

My Lords, we are a proudly online nation, embracing interconnectivity in all walks of life. Cloud-based working, the rise of software as a service, the advent of artificial intelligence and more have rocketed the UK forward. They have enabled us to work faster, more efficiently and with more flexibility than...

My Lords, we are a proudly online nation, embracing interconnectivity in all walks of life. Cloud-based working, the rise of software as a service, the advent of artificial intelligence and more have rocketed the UK forward. They have enabled us to work faster, more efficiently and with more flexibility than...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the Bill before your Lordships’ House this afternoon. His Majesty’s loyal Opposition support the objective which lies behind this legislation. The cyber threat facing the UK is growing incrementally, both in scale and in sophistication. From hostile states to organised crime, from...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the Bill before your Lordships’ House this afternoon. His Majesty’s loyal Opposition support the objective which lies behind this legislation. The cyber threat facing the UK is growing incrementally, both in scale and in sophistication. From hostile states to organised crime, from...

My Lords, I too thank the noble Baroness for introducing the Bill. From these Benches we welcome the Bill, but we feel that in a number of ways it does not go far enough. Hostile state actors, organised crime and others are increasingly targeting our systems at every level with...

My Lords, I too thank the noble Baroness for introducing the Bill. From these Benches we welcome the Bill, but we feel that in a number of ways it does not go far enough. Hostile state actors, organised crime and others are increasingly targeting our systems at every level with...

My Lords, the Government’s own cyber survey reports that 43% of UK businesses experienced a cyber attack last year, costing the UK economy an estimated £15 billion. Here are just a few examples of those many attacks: a deepfake video call cost Arup £20 million; Marks & Spencer was attacked...

My Lords, the Government’s own cyber survey reports that 43% of UK businesses experienced a cyber attack last year, costing the UK economy an estimated £15 billion. Here are just a few examples of those many attacks: a deepfake video call cost Arup £20 million; Marks & Spencer was attacked...

My Lords, what a pleasure it is to follow such an interesting and constructive speech. I hope the noble Lord will take full part in Committee on the Bill. I declare my interest as chairman of the advisory panel of the technology company Thales UK. I thank the Minister for...

My Lords, what a pleasure it is to follow such an interesting and constructive speech. I hope the noble Lord will take full part in Committee on the Bill. I declare my interest as chairman of the advisory panel of the technology company Thales UK. I thank the Minister for...

My Lords, the Government’s whole-of-society approach to national security rightly recognises that resilience is not delivered by the state alone; it is delivered through partnership between government, regulators, industry, communities and, crucially, the private sector. Cyber resilience is no exception. It requires every bit of the infrastructure to play its...

My Lords, the Government’s whole-of-society approach to national security rightly recognises that resilience is not delivered by the state alone; it is delivered through partnership between government, regulators, industry, communities and, crucially, the private sector. Cyber resilience is no exception. It requires every bit of the infrastructure to play its...

My Lords, I support this Bill. I rather agree with those who have spoken previously that it is not particularly ambitious in its aims, but, if successful, it will be a largely useful piece of legislation. It is modest in its aims but liable to be of service for a...

My Lords, I support this Bill. I rather agree with those who have spoken previously that it is not particularly ambitious in its aims, but, if successful, it will be a largely useful piece of legislation. It is modest in its aims but liable to be of service for a...

I will conclude. The Bill recognises the need for regulatory co-operation, and it is certainly going to be very important if it is made to work. I also agree with those who think that we should align with things such as NIS2 to reduce the potential conflict between us and...

I will conclude. The Bill recognises the need for regulatory co-operation, and it is certainly going to be very important if it is made to work. I also agree with those who think that we should align with things such as NIS2 to reduce the potential conflict between us and...

My Lords, this is proving a fascinating and valuable debate, recognising the Bill’s many strengths, what could be tweaked, and what perhaps is missing as we look ahead. To begin with the strengths, we heard from the noble Earl, Lord Effingham, that the Bill builds on the work of the...

My Lords, this is proving a fascinating and valuable debate, recognising the Bill’s many strengths, what could be tweaked, and what perhaps is missing as we look ahead. To begin with the strengths, we heard from the noble Earl, Lord Effingham, that the Bill builds on the work of the...

My Lords, there is a risk of agreement breaking out at this juncture. I too very much welcome the cyber security Bill and agree with others who have raised the omissions. There is nothing for the private sector and nothing on local authorities. It focuses on the size of service...

My Lords, there is a risk of agreement breaking out at this juncture. I too very much welcome the cyber security Bill and agree with others who have raised the omissions. There is nothing for the private sector and nothing on local authorities. It focuses on the size of service...

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron. I will come back to her points about digital sovereignty. I also thank the Minister for introducing this Bill.

I have been reflecting back. I am approaching my eighth year in your Lordships’ House, and we have...

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron. I will come back to her points about digital sovereignty. I also thank the Minister for introducing this Bill.

I have been reflecting back. I am approaching my eighth year in your Lordships’ House, and we have...

My Lords, the Bill sits squarely within the wider national security and preparedness agenda to which this House has repeatedly returned in recent months since the publication of the strategic defence review. We have spoken often about the interlocking nature of modern threats: geopolitical instability, climate shocks, pressure on critical...

My Lords, the Bill sits squarely within the wider national security and preparedness agenda to which this House has repeatedly returned in recent months since the publication of the strategic defence review. We have spoken often about the interlocking nature of modern threats: geopolitical instability, climate shocks, pressure on critical...

My Lords, I see that I have gone down on the speakers’ list as “B Ludford—first half”, presumably in the expectation that I will make the second half of my speech later. I am only kidding.

I knew that I would learn a lot in this debate and I have not...

My Lords, I see that I have gone down on the speakers’ list as “B Ludford—first half”, presumably in the expectation that I will make the second half of my speech later. I am only kidding.

I knew that I would learn a lot in this debate and I have not...

My Lords, it is a pleasure to take part in this debate at Second Reading. I am taking part not because I was once hacked but because I was very briefly the Cyber Security Minister—which is almost as surprising as learning that I was once the Minister of Fashion.

Several themes...

My Lords, it is a pleasure to take part in this debate at Second Reading. I am taking part not because I was once hacked but because I was very briefly the Cyber Security Minister—which is almost as surprising as learning that I was once the Minister of Fashion.

Several themes...

My Lords, too often we hear in the news that our local hospital cannot access patient records, or that the transport network in our cities has

stalled, or, as I experienced last year, that the power has gone on and off for over a month as the local electricity grid...

My Lords, too often we hear in the news that our local hospital cannot access patient records, or that the transport network in our cities has

stalled, or, as I experienced last year, that the power has gone on and off for over a month as the local electricity grid...

My Lords, I declare my interest as a chief engineer working for AtkinsRéalis and I support the Bill. Given the threats that we are facing, strengthening the cyber security of the UK is vital. I think that the flexible, risk-based approach taken within the Bill is the right one.

Noble Lords...

My Lords, I declare my interest as a chief engineer working for AtkinsRéalis and I support the Bill. Given the threats that we are facing, strengthening the cyber security of the UK is vital. I think that the flexible, risk-based approach taken within the Bill is the right one.

Noble Lords...

My Lords, earlier today, the noble Viscount, Lord Colville, and I were saying that we were both quite late down this list and feared that everything would already have been said. That appears to be the case, but, fear not, I will still use my eight minutes.

I support the Bill...

My Lords, earlier today, the noble Viscount, Lord Colville, and I were saying that we were both quite late down this list and feared that everything would already have been said. That appears to be the case, but, fear not, I will still use my eight minutes.

I support the Bill...

To Ministers.

To Ministers.