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Lords statement on criminal justice in England and Wales

Lead member
Lord Stewart of Dirleton
Department
Advocate General for Scotland
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 cc2116-2128
House
House of Lords

My Lords, prisoners will now be released not 18 days early, but up to 60 days early. No other Government have ever found themselves having to do that on such a scale. It is nearly three times the number of days on licence seen under any previous scheme. I have...

Member
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 cc2121-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this 11-page Statement contains a series of self-congratulatory assertions from the MoJ on everything from falling crime, longer sentences, new offences and deporting foreign national offenders to the response to the pandemic. The noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, has pointed out the weaknesses in some of those assertions. But...

Member
Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 cc2122-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in order to respond to the points made by the noble Lords, Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede and Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames, it is as well that the House reminds itself of the background against which the Government are acting: the unprecedented circumstances of the Covid pandemic.

During that...

Member
Lord Stewart of Dirleton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 cc2123-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have two specific questions. The first point is that the early release scheme will put an additional burden on the Probation Service. The noble and learned Lord quoted the £155 million which was first raised in 2021. Can he confirm that there is no specific additional money...

Member
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 c2127
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the noble Lord for clarifying certain of the remarks that he made initially and putting them down into two specific questions. I regret to say that they fall within the category of information which I have sought but do not readily have available. So, with the...

Member
Lord Stewart of Dirleton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 c2128
House
House of Lords

My Lords, may I clarify one point? First, I am very grateful for the indication that we will have in writing the specific answers to the specific questions we asked, but I make it clear that we regard it as of great importance to clarify the numbers of prison places...

Member
Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 c2128
House
House of Lords

I hear what the noble Lord has said. He makes a series of good points and we will write to him on those. I will ensure that those specific matters feature in the letter.

Member
Lord Stewart of Dirleton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2024
Reference
836 c2128
House
House of Lords

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 3 and 4 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

Lead member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom; Lord Stewart of Dirleton
Answering member
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede; Lord Coaker
Department
Home Office; Advocate General for Scotland
Type
Committee of the Whole House (HL); Debates on bills
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 cc381-443
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the independent monitoring committee was established on 2 September 2022 under the terms of the initial memorandum of understanding. Its role has subsequently been enhanced by the treaty between the UK and Rwanda to ensure that the obligations under the treaty are adhered to in practice. The monitoring...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 cc382-3
House
House of Lords

I apologise for interrupting the Minister, but are we right to understand that he is saying that there will be no deportations to Rwanda until the monitoring committee is up and running?

Member
Lord Falconer of Thoroton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c383
House
House of Lords

As far as I understand it, that is the case.

On a point that we will debate further in relation to Amendment 76A tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of Tweed, and the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, during the period of enhanced monitoring, the monitoring committee will report to the...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c383
House
House of Lords

Will the Minister say whether the reports from the monitoring committee to the joint committee will be made available to the House?

Member
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c383
House
House of Lords

I cannot say that at the moment, but, as I have said, they will be published on a regular basis.

The monitoring committee will be supported in all its work by a new support team, as set out in Article 15.(8) of the treaty. The new support team will consist of...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 cc383-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for outlining the elements of the ETIF and the MEDP, but could he place in the Library a more detailed breakdown? The £20 million credit line for operational does seem to be one part of a credit line. The Minister says that...

Member
Lord Purvis of Tweed (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c384
House
House of Lords

I am happy to commit to providing as much detail as I can in the letter that the noble Lord requests. I am afraid that I do not

know the answer to the foreign development aid question, so I will have to look into that and come back to him.

With...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 cc384-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Stewart of Dirleton, indicated in an earlier amendment that the Government would say how Parliament was going to keep its judgment that Rwanda was a safe country under review because circumstances could change. He was going to tell us, but then said...

Member
Lord Falconer of Thoroton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c386
House
House of Lords

Well, my Lords, I recollect the discussion last week between the noble and learned Lord and my noble friend Lord Wolfson. I think my noble friend pointed out that the right to asylum is not a vested legal right—that there is a right to asylum, but not necessarily in the...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c386
House
House of Lords

Do I take it, then, that the Government’s position reflects the speech made by the noble Lord, Lord Wolfson?

Member
Lord Falconer of Thoroton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c387
House
House of Lords

No, but I think that the noble Lord, Lord Wolfson, summed up the Government’s position rather well, and probably better than I can. I am afraid that we will have to return to the first question asked by the noble and learned Lord in a later group.

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2024
Reference
836 c387
House
House of Lords