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Health and Social Care Bill. Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 7 to 19 agreed to, with clause 14 agreed to as amended.

Lead member
Earl Howe
Department
Department of Health
Type
Committee of the Whole House (HL); Debates on bills
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c690-810
House
House of Lords

72A: Clause 9, page 5, line 23, at end insert— ““( ) providing services to improve communication skills in children and adults;””

Member
Lord Ramsbotham (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c772
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was hoping to speak in support of my noble friend Lord Northbourne, who introduced a whole cluster of amendments which had at their heart not just parenting but also the development of our children. I do not want to bore the House but my interest in this...

Member
Lord Ramsbotham (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c772-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 97. I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, about the need for communication skills, but this set of amendments is really all about improving services for children. It is interesting to note that so much has been said during our debates on...

Member
Baroness Massey of Darwen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c774-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I speak to the amendments to which I have added my name, and urge the Minister to ensure that speech, language and communications needs are treated as a core public health issue in this Bill. As the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, said, communication is a basic life skill...

Member
Baroness Wilkins (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c775-6
House
House of Lords

As the Minister resumes her seat, I would ask: if the matter is so serious, what is the problem with changing the word from ““may”” to ““must””? What difficulty does that bring? Seeing the seriousness of the matter, why do the Government continue to say, ““We will watch this””, ““We...

Member
Lord Sentamu (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c771
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 72A, 81A, 91A, 200A, 201ZA, 327B, 327C, 329A, 331C and 333B—all amendments on speech and communication. I think that Amendment 218A should also have been included because it deals with integration—in this case, for the commissioning groups. I hope that when the Minister...

Member
Baroness Whitaker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c777-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am sorry that the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, was not here to move his amendment. However, I think that the general principles that the other amendments in this group address are very much what I want to bring to the attention of the House and the Minister....

Member
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c776-7
House
House of Lords

I have added my name to one of the amendments in this group but support many of the others. The key issue is that children often need accurate diagnosis but do not get it. It is the way in which you detect learning difficulties of all sorts—sensory impairment and motor...

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c778-9
House
House of Lords

I, too, support the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. He clearly has a great deal of support in the Committee for the amendments, on which he spoke so eloquently, as did the noble Baroness, Lady Wilkins. I come at this as a former chairman, and now the president,...

Member
Lord Clement-Jones (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c778
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 203C and 215A. Although the Bill places a duty on each clinical commissioning group to, "““obtain advice appropriate for enabling it effectively to discharge its functions from persons who (taken together) have a broad range of professional expertise in … the protection or...

Member
Baroness Hollins (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c791-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I want to address briefly the question that Clause 15 should stand part of the Bill raised by the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, and her colleague on the Front Bench. At this stage I do not intend to go over the points which have already been made so...

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c792
House
House of Lords

My Lords, public health started in local government some 160 years ago—and as many of us have previously remarked, it started in Birmingham or Liverpool or Newcastle, depending on who you believe. But in all events it owes its origins to local government, and as many noble Lords have already...

Member
Lord Beecham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c793-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, with Amendments 73 and 75, the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, has correctly identified the importance to public health of collaboration and co-operation between agencies. The noble Lords, Lord Rooker and Lord Greaves, come from somewhat different perspectives with regard to local government, perhaps based on their relevant or...

Member
Baroness Northover (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c794
House
House of Lords

I thank my noble friend very much indeed for that. While the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, and I may come from different ends of the spectrum, we end up in the middle agreeing on a way forward.

Member
Lord Greaves (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c794
House
House of Lords

And so do I.

Member
Lord Beecham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c794
House
House of Lords

Well, there we are—at this time of day, just before a recess, we have cross-party consensus. Shall we just adjourn? The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, correctly identifies the areas in which local authorities have done so much to improve public health. I made reference earlier, as others have made reference,...

Member
Baroness Northover (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c794-6
House
House of Lords

Slightly but not tremendously.

Member
Baroness Tyler of Enfield (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c797
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister and for the support for the fact that we need to address this issue. I am not asking for any more reassurances but I should like to believe that between now and Report there will be deeper discussions with local government, probably...

Member
Lord Rooker (Labour Independent)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c797
House
House of Lords

I am reassured that she is slightly clarified. This has been yet another important exploration of how the new arrangements might work. I realise that there will no doubt be further discussion; nevertheless, I hope that in the light of what I have said the noble Lord will be prepared...

Member
Baroness Northover (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 November 2011
Reference
732 c797
House
House of Lords