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Private Members' Bill (Ballot bill) presented 20 June 2012.
Date
25 April 2013
Reference
CHAP 23 2013; 2013 c. 23

Moved by

Baroness Wilcox

Member
Baroness Wilcox (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1817
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1817
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in moving this amendment to the Motion, I would like to refer the House to its wording at the bottom of grouping sheet, which has somehow been printed at the bottom of all the amendments to the Bill. This is what I am speaking to now. It is...

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1817-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in supporting the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, I declare an interest as a member of the Royal Yachting Association. I cannot imagine a greater recipe for the lawyers of our knowledge than the conflict that the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, has exposed before us today. The question of...

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Lord Eames (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1819
House
House of Lords

My Lords, noble Lords will remember that at Second Reading we had a mutual admiration for the ancient mariners of Watchet. We all seemed to know Watchet very well, to my great surprise. I mention it in the context of this Committee stage because noble Lords will acknowledge the goings-on...

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Lord Chidgey (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1820
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not want to get into European law, but we are talking about definitions. The noble Lord, Lord Chidgey, has referred to them. The amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Berkeley refers to,

“proposals to allow junior ratings to hold pilotage exemption certificates”.

There is nothing...

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Lord MacKenzie of Culkein (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1820-1
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I tabled the amendment on Wednesday evening because I still had not received a copy of the letter from the letter from Stephen Hammond MP, which I felt that we needed. The letter arrived 12 hours later,...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1822
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not intend to repeat what I said at Second Reading, or what I said on my earlier amendment, as we have had a good debate on the issue in Clause 2. My concern remains only with the inclusion in the clause of the phrase “deck officer”...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1822-3
House
House of Lords

I repeat what we said at Second Reading. We support the Bill and want it to succeed, not least because many of its provisions were contained in a draft Bill that we produced when we were in government. However, I am not sure that the Government are being as helpful...

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Lord Rosser (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1823-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I did not take part in the earlier debate, because quite clearly it was of a species known as the “Berkeley herring”, which is a close relative of its cousin, the red. I wanted to get on and talk about the Bill.

Let me first chide the noble Lord,...

Member
Earl of Caithness (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1824
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I follow the same line as the noble Earl. In the previous debate, a noble Lord referred to the noble Lord, Lord Graham of Edmonton, as a “diamond” and “dogged”. Well, the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, is certainly dogged. If he is as good as his word and...

Member
Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1824-7
House
House of Lords

I hear what the noble Lord says and generally support it, but I have not quoted many letters from pilots, although we have heard a lot of them today. One touched on this subject. A number of British shipping companies, including some ferry companies, are taking on and training young...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1827
House
House of Lords

My answer to that would be that young, well trained British officers are highly thought of elsewhere in the world, so jobs are available for them.

PEC examinations can be seen by both individuals and their employing companies as an important rung in the advancement of their professional careers. They involve...

Member
Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1827
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I concur with the excellent points made by my noble friend. The clause will not reduce the standards required by the competent harbour authorities of applicants for a pilotage exemption certificate. It simply states that deck officers and members of the crew with navigation responsibilities can hold a...

Member
Baroness Wilcox (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1829
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate and to the noble Earl, Lord Attlee, for the very full answers that he gave. Many of them were very helpful, but one thing that was conspicuously missing was that although there was a lot...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1829-1832
House
House of Lords

Let us hope so. If it was the Port of London Authority, I am sure that that would be the case. I have more doubts about other authorities. There is also the question of ensuring that we do not confuse junior officers with junior ratings, as there were one or...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1832
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Eames

1: Clause 5, page 4, line 21, at end insert—

“(8) An order designating a harbour authority shall not be made unless the Welsh Ministers, the Secretary of State or the Scottish Ministers, as the case may be, are satisfied that the harbour authority has in place appropriate procedures...

Member
Lord Eames (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1832
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have tabled this amendment to reflect the concerns that were expressed in the debate in another place on this aspect of the Bill. I again refer to my indication of interest as a member of the RYA.

As articulated in the debate in the other place, under Clause...

Member
Lord Eames (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 cc1832-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble and right reverend Lord on moving the amendment. It is a very useful probe; I shall probably have some more probes later. I have a copy of the code of conduct, which, as he said, was agreed yesterday lunchtime. That probably shows, but at...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 February 2013
Reference
742 c1834
House
House of Lords