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My Lords, in February this year, as time was finally called on Northern Rock, we were presented with a Hobson's choice. After months of dithering we were rushed into passing the temporary Banking (Special Provisions) Bill, which went through both Houses of Parliament in just over three days. Today, this...

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Lord Bilimoria (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c783-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his careful presentation of the Bill. Like the noble Baroness, I look forward to the maiden speech of the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Kelvin. This is an important Bill, the principles of which we support. Despite its general title, it deals with...

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Lord Newby (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c764-7
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House of Lords

My Lords, the debate today has been on a higher level than much of the public comment in the press and news bulletins. I am glad to be able to take part in a debate which is beginning to identify some of the underlying difficulties that have arisen in these...

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Lord Stewartby (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c794-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before I turn to the main body of my remarks on the Bill, I will comment on the position stated so forcefully by the noble Lord, Lord Bilimoria, who I regret is not in his place, and echoed by other noble Lords. That position is that returning regulatory...

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Lord Eatwell (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c791-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as my noble friend Lord Newby said—and as both the opening speakers summed up pretty well—we support the purposes of this Bill. However, as the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, said, there is some way for this Bill to travel. We are concerned about the wide regulation-making powers in...

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Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c816-9
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House of Lords

My Lords, first, I join in welcoming the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Kelvin, to this House and in congratulating him on an excellent maiden speech. It spoke to his experience and wisdom, to the great benefit he will bring to this House and to a subtle sense of humour...

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Lord Myners (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c821-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Kelvin, on his maiden speech. His experience and the insight that it brings will be a welcome addition to this House. As my noble friend Lady Noakes said, we on these Benches have offered our assistance and support to...

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Lord Howard of Rising (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c819-21
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is not a very satisfactory Bill for a variety of reasons, as many noble Lords have said. It bears all the hallmarks of a hasty, knee-jerk piece of legislation, motivated by a sense of the need to do something. In that way, it is similar to the...

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Lord Smith of Clifton (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
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16 December 2008
Reference
706 c788-91
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House of Lords

My Lords, I have stood from these Baron Benches, as they are called, for many years and spoken on similar subjects. It always gives me really great pleasure when the professors and economists buzz off. If the accountants could only go as well, life would be much easier. Banking problems...

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Lord Selsdon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c799-802
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Second Readings are an opportunity to debate what is in a Bill. However, they are also an opportunity to debate what should be in a Bill but is not. This Bill provides for pre-funding of the Financial Services Compensation Scheme—which has not been much talked about this afternoon—and...

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Lord Lipsey (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c796-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, coming this late into the debate one is always on the edge of one’s seat as to whether there is going to be anything left to say of the text one has brought in. I thought that I had got lucky until the noble Lord, Lord Williams of...

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Lord James of Blackheath (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c805-10
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is always a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, who introduces a personal note into our debates which is genuine and pleasant. The noble Lord, Lord Stewartby, asked why we are here. This Bill has been pored over, as the Minister said, in consultation,...

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Lord Williams of Elvel (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c802-5
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House of Lords

My Lords, to follow the intervention of the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, we have had the economists, the accountants, the lawyers and the bankers, and now I am intervening on behalf of the customers and consumers. I declare my interest as chair of the new organisation Consumer Focus. I support...

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Lord Whitty (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c810-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support legislation that enables the Bank of England to rescue failing banks; therefore, I give overall approval to this Bill, as do the British Bankers’ Association and my opposition Front Bench. In particular, I applaud the increase by the FSA of the deposit protection limit of the...

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Lord Northbrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c813-6
House
House of Lords

That the Bill be read a second time. My Lords, while these are challenging times for financial markets and economies around the world, the Bill before the House today is a timely package of reforms to improve the UK’s system for ensuring financial stability and protecting depositors. I am very...

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Lord Myners (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c755-60
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House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the Bill and for clearly explaining its contents. However, the highlight of the day will be the maiden speech of the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Kelvin, who is a welcome addition to the select band of chartered accountants in your Lordships'...

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Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c760-4
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House of Lords

My Lords, it is a daunting task to follow such a distinguished economist as the noble Lord, Lord Peston, in this debate, particularly when I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with much of what he said. I should like to draw attention to my various interests relating...

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Lord Blackwell (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
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16 December 2008
Reference
706 c779-83
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House of Lords

My Lords, that is right. We presented that proposal to the Government. My noble friend Lord McIntosh, who has just reminded me what the provision actually said, was on the Front Bench dealing with that Bill, so he was the one who rejected what my noble friend Lord Barnett and...

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Lord Peston (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c776-9
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House of Lords

My Lords, at this stage in a Second Reading debate, when the debate has been about a loss of confidence, why it occurred, who has lost it and how in some principled and large way it might be restored, it may be difficult to return to detailed consideration of the...

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Viscount Eccles (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c786-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am really delighted to have the opportunity to congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Kelvin, on a most excellent maiden speech. I find myself with much in common with the noble Lord: I am an accountant, no longer practising of course; I was the vice-chairman of...

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Lord Barnett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2008
Reference
706 c769-72
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House of Lords