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Lords motion that this House endorses the second report from the House of Lords Commission on Establishing Parliament's commercial function as a joint department of both Houses (HL 124); and in consequence, approves the establishment of a joint department of the two Houses, under the terms of the Parliament (Joint...

Lead member
Baroness Smith of Basildon
Department
Lord Privy Seal; House of Lords Commission
Type
Debates on select committee reports
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 cc1527-1539
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am moving this Motion on behalf of the House of Lords Commission. We are asking the House to support and endorse the report published on 14 May establishing Parliament’s commercial function as a joint department of both Houses. I hope that noble Lords have read the report,...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 cc1528-9
House
House of Lords

I welcome the decision to make some changes here, but can the noble Baroness tell the House what the cost of the new front door at the Peers’ Entrance has been? Very senior Members of this House and members of the commission have been told repeatedly that they cannot know...

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 cc1529-1530
House
House of Lords

I am not going to continue on the saga of the front door, although I agree completely with what the noble Lord has just said. Even I am considered occasionally a bit more diplomatic than the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth. He is right that there are now a number of...

Member
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1530
House
House of Lords

Can the noble Baroness the Leader confirm that all those individuals—and I mean individuals rather than collective groups of people—who sign contracts on behalf of this House have professional indemnity insurance? Can she explain to the House what that level of cover is and what decisions were made in determining...

Member
Baroness Browning (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1530
House
House of Lords

To follow up on the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, and my colleague on this lovely front door, I have good information that it is the first time that such a design has been used. Why should we be guinea pigs? We believe in precedent here for a...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1530
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I want to pick up what the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, said about use of the Commons Terrace. I have been a Member of this House for very many years and occasionally have used the Commons Terrace. About a year ago I had one of my grandsons here...

Member
Baroness Blackstone (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1531
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the report and what the Leader of the House has said. Some very important points have been made. As a member of the commission, I know that it is well versed in and very involved in discussions on these matters.

This is undoubtedly the right way forward....

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Lord McLoughlin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1531
House
House of Lords

A number of Peers present at the moment, and indeed the Clerk of the Parliaments, went home rather late last night. As we did so—the door was conveniently left open for us to go through at our liberty—I noticed a large number of heavy-duty lorries outside, parked across the bus...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1531
House
House of Lords

I want to add just one thing about what the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, said. The dominance of the position of the House of Commons certainly resulted in the death of one Member of this House. Many years ago, when I came in, I fought for four years to get...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1532
House
House of Lords

Perhaps I might briefly add to what my noble friend Lord Forsyth said, focusing in particular on the door. There are many other points that could be made. I think it seems very sensible to do things jointly, although I am concerned this will lead to even less accountability. The...

Member
Lord Robathan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1532
House
House of Lords

Can I ask the Leader of the House to investigate the position of access to the Terrace? One of the greatest privileges of the House, apart from the Chamber and Library, is access to the Terrace. Our Terrace is infinitely smaller than the Terrace next door, which I enjoyed as...

Member
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1532
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, mentioned my diplomatic skills. I now start my audition for a role at the UN.

I will challenge one thing the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, said, which I strongly reject: that we are a part-time House. Those of us who were here at 1.30...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1532
House
House of Lords

I stand corrected. Perhaps I should have said that, unlike the other place, we are unpaid.

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1532
House
House of Lords

Round one on my diplomatic interview. A number of points have been raised and I want to try to address them. This has gone wider than the question.

On the door itself, there are two issues: cost and operability. It is completely unacceptable that we have a door that does not...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 cc1532-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords—

Member
Lord Hayward (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1533
House
House of Lords

I will give way shortly, but I have a lot of questions to answer.

So, it is unacceptable, but the reassurance I can give is that the directorate is changing. I think that joint working, with a Parliament-wide department to deal with these issues, seems a no-brainer. Why have we not...

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 cc1533-5
House
House of Lords

This was before we had any defibrillators. We were a long time trying to persuade Black Rod at that time to ensure that we did have this sort of support. Eventually, he called in the Serjeant at Arms and other Members of the House of Commons, who told me very...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1534
House
House of Lords

Clearly, we have moved on and are in a much better position now.

Member
Baroness Smith of Basildon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1534
House
House of Lords

When I was talking about professional indemnity, I had particularly in mind the fact that, apart from the operation of the door, which has been discussed, I have lost count of how many times the specially made glass panel has been replaced—I cannot remember whether it is three or four....

Member
Baroness Browning (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 June 2025
Reference
846 c1534
House
House of Lords