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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. He mentioned basic command units and I agree with much of what he says, but when I have a problem with a constituent in Lichfield I can take them to police headquarters in Stafford, where they can talk to the top man. The...

Member
Michael Fabricant (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c339
House
House of Commons

I think that I had better give way to the hon. Member for Lichfield (Michael Fabricant) now.

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Ian Lucas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c339
House
House of Commons

Is my hon. Friend surprised that despite everything that the three Tory MPs in Wales have said about policing, none of them is bothering to take part in the debate?

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Mark Tami (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c340
House
House of Commons

The previous Home Secretary was well aware that Members of Parliament representing north Wales had profound concerns about the proposals. The new Home Secretary will also be aware of that concern, which we have shown by our attendance in the Chamber today. I am aware of the hon. Gentleman’s arguments...

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Ian Lucas (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
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446 c340
House
House of Commons

The port of Holyhead is in my constituency. There was concern about the transfer of policing from the port to the local area but no decision has yet been made. I raised the issue with the Home Secretary, who said that he would look into it. The important issue of...

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Albert Owen (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c339
House
House of Commons

I will give way to my hon. Friend— Hon. Members: Oh!

Member
Ian Lucas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c339
House
House of Commons

Will my hon. Friend give way?

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Albert Owen (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
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10 May 2006
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446 c339
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House of Commons

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

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Michael Fabricant (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c339
House
House of Commons

Part of the Government’s explanation of the reason for police mergers is that they will increase resilience and improve counter-terrorism and co-ordination between police force areas, so why are five special branch officers being removed from the important port of Holyhead, which has the fourth highest footfall in the country?

Member
Mark Pritchard (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c339
House
House of Commons

I have no detailed knowledge of that proposal, but my hon. Friend the Member for Ynys Môn (Albert Owen) is in active discussion about it, so I have every confidence that the matter will be satisfactorily resolved owing to his intervention.

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Ian Lucas (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
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446 c339
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House of Commons

It is essential that individuals and our constituents have links with the police at the most local level. Community safety partnerships enable that to happen. Basic command units in my area of north-east Wales have been extremely effective in linking local authorities and the police so that they can work...

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Ian Lucas (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c338-9
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friends and I recognise that the hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to say that it is important that police forces have an affinity and a closeness to local communities, so why are the Government trying to destroy that by merging police authorities into larger areas where they are...

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Simon Burns (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c338
House
House of Commons

I support the Government amendments, in particular new clause 4 and amendment No. 64. The proposals to set up an all-Wales police force have been extremely controversial in Wales, especially in north Wales. North Wales Labour MPs have been listening closely to their constituents’ views about the proposals and were...

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Ian Lucas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c338
House
House of Commons

No, I do not. It is plausible to have a regional government appropriate to the community that it serves that is not based on the model that is emerging in this country. For the record, my party has always been in favour of elected regional government that takes power down...

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Martin Horwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c336-8
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there appears to be a dichotomy between his party’s correct opposition to the proposals for police amalgamations and its consistent support for regional government in every form possible?

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Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c336
House
House of Commons

Search as I might in all sources available to me, I can find no justification for asserting that particular criterion. It does not bear examination or stand up to scrutiny for me, although it did for the former Home Secretary. I have to say to the Minister, who I see...

Member
Frank Cook (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c347-8
House
House of Commons

Not true.

Member
Michael Fabricant (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c348
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that the composition of the local teams that he has referred to should reflect the most local level? Whether resources are devoted to fully trained police constables, police community support officers or wardens, the decision should be made to reflect local need, and should...

Member
Angela Watkinson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c343
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Investment pays off in policing. Community police teams, of which we are very proud, have been created in north Wales. We are leading the way on that issue. We do not want the progress that has been made in north Wales to be...

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Ian Lucas (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c342-3
House
House of Commons

We have just had a 25-minute debate on community policing in north Wales in the middle of a debate on the reorganisation of police forces across the country—I would like to drag the debate back to that broader subject. I want to speak in support of Amendment No. 82. I...

Member
Lord Maples (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 May 2006
Reference
446 c343-6
House
House of Commons