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Date
26 July 2007
Reference
CHAP 18 2007

Statistics and Registration Service Bill. Commons amendments considered. Motion that the Lords do not insist on amendments 12, 13, 15, 20, 67 to 70 and 72 and do agree with the Commons in their amendments Nos 15D, 15E and 15F. Agreed to on question.

Department
Treasury
Type
Debates on bills
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c373-82
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is within the framework of the Bill. The problem with regard to the legislative position, as the noble Lord will recognise, is that we have proceeded with the blessing and good will of the devolved Administrations and we did not say that we would put this issue...

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Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c381-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble Baroness will recognise that we bring a powerful new structure into place and a very powerful new actor in the board and its responsibility for statistics. Yet, with her proposal, should the board reach any different judgment on pre-release at any time in the future for...

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Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c381
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that raises a very interesting question. The Minister says that there is an iron-clad assurance from the Prime Minister. Is that iron-clad assurance also given on behalf of the devolved Administrations?

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Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c381
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to what I hope will be the last stages of the debate on the Bill. I note the contribution made by the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, who, I understand, is not able to be in his place today,...

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Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c380
House
House of Lords

My Lords, what we have always failed to understand, both in this place and in another place, is why the Government cannot put in the Bill the provision for a maximum of 24 hours, since we understand that to be their firm intent.

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Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c381
House
House of Lords

My Lords, perhaps a non-Cross-Bencher may intervene briefly. I welcome the improvements to the Bill, as I do the effort that is being made, as a result of those improvements, to create a thoroughly independent and trusted system of statistics in this country. However, statistics must have another important quality...

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Lord Lawson of Blaby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c380
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the Commons amendments be now considered. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to. [The page and line references are to Bill 53 as first printed for the Lords.] 12: Page 5, line 13, at end insert— "““(1A) The Code shall include rules...

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Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c373
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do not insist on its Amendments Nos. 12, 13, 15, 20, 67 to 70 and 72 and do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 15D, 15E and 15F to the words restored to the Bill by their disagreement with...

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Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c373-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the Motion. The other place continues to assert that the rules for pre-release are more appropriately made by Ministers. It has been the consistent position of your Lordships’ House that the independent Statistics Board, created by this Bill, should set the rules....

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c375-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, a good number of humorous remarks were made yesterday in another place about those who were new boys and new girls to the Bill, but, like my honourable friend Vincent Cable in the other place, I am not a new boy on the Bill, although I am not...

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Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c377
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my views are very similar to those of the previous speakers. The amendment proposed by the other House is not quite what we had in mind throughout our debates. As far as I understand it, it does not cover the place of pre-release in the code and it...

Member
Lord Moser (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c378-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the proposal underlying the Bill was excellent, but the original Bill was seriously flawed. It displayed a lack of conviction, with Ministers showing great reluctance to let go and trust the board. Happily, this House has done what it is here to do. Even if we have not...

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Lord Turnbull (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 July 2007
Reference
694 c379-80
House
House of Lords

What is being suggested is that the 24-hour maximum that the Prime Minister has proposed should be included in the Bill. The Minister is resisting that on the ground that she needs flexibility for legislation to evolve. Is she seriously suggesting that it might evolve in the direction of the...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
463 c320-1
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady should recognise that Prime Ministers come and go and, as she said, the legislation must last a long time. The promise made by the current Prime Minister does not necessarily bind the next Prime Minister. The House, however, can pass legislation that will put that promise into...

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Robert Smith (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
463 c321
House
House of Commons

Is the hon. Gentleman also seriously suggesting that when the Prime Minister makes a statement on the Floor of the House his word is not to be trusted?

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Angela Eagle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
463 c321
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman should listen more carefully to what I say. I made no suggestion that the Government were somehow intending to have a pre-release time that was longer than 24 hours. It is clear that 24 hours is a maximum. I have set out the long list of changes...

Member
Angela Eagle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
463 c321
House
House of Commons

I disagree on what is the central issue of the Bill. For me, the central issue is the independence of the statistics board. That is not a new issue. I recall raising the concerns of the statisticians working in my constituency with the then Prime Minister in 1989. They were...

Member
Paul Flynn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
463 c319
House
House of Commons

The debate has resembled others on the matter, both those in which I have participated and those that took place before my appointment. During the passage of the Bill, the Government have moved to meet the views of all sides. As a result, we have made real changes. I welcome...

Member
Angela Eagle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
463 c320
House
House of Commons