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Children and Adoption Bill (HL). Committee stage first sitting (morning). Programme motion agreed to. Clauses 9 to 14 agreed to.

Type
Debates on bills; Public Bill Committee proceedings
Date
14 March 2006
Reference
SCB
House
House of Commons

My Lords, does the Minister agree that if we are to achieve what so many of us wish—meaningful contact between non-resident parents and children—it is crucial, especially in marginal cases, that there is a high quality supervisor who does not just sit in the corner of the room taking notes,...

Member
Earl of Listowel (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c896
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was contemplating reading your Lordships a chunk of Chetneys Family Law on deserving and undeserving fathers but, at this late hour, I shall spare the House. It is all very well working on the superstructure of the arrangements for helping separating parents and children, but if the...

Member
Lord Northbourne (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c896-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, support the amendment. I greatly admire the single-minded attention to the matter that the noble Baronesses, Lady Gould and Lady Thornton, have given on this occasion and in the past. I also remember how passionately the noble Earl, Lord Russell, felt about this issue. I first...

Member
Earl of Listowel (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c891
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will not speak about parenting plans, but I want to say a quick word about mediation, because it is a word that is banded out and has many meanings depending where you stand on the professional spectrum. There is a real misunderstanding about the role of mediation...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c871
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support these three amendments in principle, because I have been much influenced by what I have read about the system in Florida. The information has been introduced to me by Dr Hamish Cameron, with whom I have worked as a trustee of the Caldecott Community and I...

Member
Lord Northbourne (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c870-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, for raising an important issue that he continually keeps us focused on: our responsibilities and obligations as parents, and particularly the rights of fathers, which is an issue of great concern to him. I will not rise to the challenge of saying...

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c894-5
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 20:"Page 2, line 6, at end insert—" ““(ii)   may, by addressing a person’s violent behaviour, enable or facilitate contact with a child;”” On Question, amendment agreed to.

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c892
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley: the message that we send to parents is of huge importance, and that message will not get through if it is buried in case law. I added my name to Amendment No. 1 because I believe the principle that, wherever possible and safe,...

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Lord Northbourne (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c839
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment Nos. 11 and 12 in my name in this group. First, I will not be in a position to support the amendments of the official Opposition in this group today. That is not because I do not think it is highly desirable to have a sensible...

Member
Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c835-9
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 1:"Before Clause 1, insert the following new clause—" ““PRESUMPTION IN FAVOUR OF CO-PARENTING    ““CO-PARENTING    After section 1(1) of the Children Act 1989 (c. 41) (welfare of the child) insert— ““(1A)   In respect of subsection (1)(a) the court shall, unless a good reason to the contrary be shown, act on the...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c831-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as the chair of CAFCASS. I have only a little to add to the magnificent input from my deputy chair, the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth of Breckland, but some things bear repeating. We must remember that 90 per cent of all parents who separate make...

Member
Baroness Pitkeathley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c842-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do indeed, as I know the noble Baroness too well to think otherwise. I was simply commenting on her being a children’s champion. Over the past few weeks, I have spoken to judges, magistrates and our own staff, who all consider that such an amendment would simply...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c841-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the noble Baroness accept that I do not so believe?

Member
Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c841
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I understand absolutely the sentiments behind the amendment. I believe that all sides of the House have the interests of children securely at heart, I simply think that we come at the issue from different positions. I shall outline why I cannot support the amendment. First, let us...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c839-41
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I agree that many people find contact issue difficult. I believe that that is because we do not have the right kind of remedies to ensure that contact can be enforced. That is not the same as the initial contact orders being made with the paramountcy of the...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c864
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as I made clear, I am not arguing against the paramountcy principle. In many cases there is no question of violence or risk to the child. but the non-resident parent cannot get the court to agree to extra contact. The reasons adduced are not what most people would...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c864-5
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 9:"Before Clause 1, insert the following new clause—"    ““PARENTING TIME PLANS (1)   The Secretary of State must issue guidance for the courts and for separating parents called parenting time plans (““the guidance””). (2)   The plans must outline the kind of contact orders the court is likely to impose in a...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c867-70
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we should not change the law on the basis of anecdotal evidence, strong as that is, but the point is that the Napo survey provides us with our first, revealing glimpse of the decisions being taken by courts. If the statistic that I quoted were substantially less than...

Member
Earl Howe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c865-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was not so much talking about statistics as about looking at what happens in the process. The noble Earl would accept that neither of us should change the law on the basis of anecdotal evidence.

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 November 2005
Reference
675 c865
House
House of Lords