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I acknowledge what the noble Lord has said and that there are differences of opinion on both sides of the argument. It is a pejorative, probably unhelpful, term that has come into popular use. I added that description for the benefit of those reading the proceedings of this House who...

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Lord Paddick (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc682-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is a complex Bill, not least because it amends and interacts with a number of other difficult statutes in the field and presupposes a full understanding of them. Although I have done quite a lot of reading in this area, I confess at once that I have...

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Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
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758 cc684-8
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House of Lords

My noble friend the Minister has set out the background to this, sadly, justified Bill, which relates to the change in the increased terrorist threat to this country. One of the main features of the threat that we now face is the geographical proximity of the conflict that it has...

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Baroness Neville-Jones (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc687-690
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House of Lords

My Lords, it is an honour to join your Lordships’ House. It was also a considerable surprise to be invited to do so, but it has turned out to be a very agreeable surprise. I am very grateful for the welcome and good wishes that I have received from your...

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Lord Evans of Weardale (Crossbench)
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Maiden speeches
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc690-3
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House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, admit to being delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Evans of Weardale, and his insightful maiden speech. He has served with distinction for 33 years in the Security Service and was until just over a year ago its director-general. His early years in MI5 are...

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Lord Harris of Haringey (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc692-7
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House of Lords

My Lords, this debate takes place in the sombre wake of the Paris atrocities but also in the wake of Sunday’s inspiring marches. We must keep our heads—I think that is the broad intention of everybody—and not repeat the ominous claim in August 2005 by the then Prime Minister that...

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Baroness Ludford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc697-700
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House of Lords

My Lords, first, I want to say how honoured I am to have been supported by the noble Baroness, Lady Cox, and the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Carey, both of whom are of the highest standing in your Lordships’ House. I am grateful also for the courtesy and...

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Lord Green of Deddington (Crossbench)
Type
Maiden speeches
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc700-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it gives me great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Green of Deddington, and to congratulate him on a maiden speech that was every bit as insightful and thought-provoking as one would expect from someone with his extraordinary background of experience and achievement. The noble Lord is,...

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Lord Wasserman (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc702-4
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House of Lords

My Lords, like everybody else, I welcome our two maiden speakers today, who will give real added value to your Lordships’ House. In particular, the noble Lord, Lord Evans of Weardale, may not realise that he also brought something else. That was a greater knowledge of the geography of England...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc704-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in the year 1219, some four years after King John put his seal to Magna Carta at Runnymede, Ghengis Khan, through his armies, invaded Persia. Their tactics were to create terror. Prisoners were executed, or even used as body shields by Mongol warriors as they charged against their...

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Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc708-711
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House of Lords

My Lords, my remarks on this Second Reading of the Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill will pose some critical questions about detailed aspects of the Bill, but they should in no sense be considered to signal opposition to the Bill—quite the contrary. The Government’s case for strengthening current counterterrorism legislation, faced...

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Lord Hannay of Chiswick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc711-4
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House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by echoing the words of my noble friend the Minister in paying tribute to our security services, who do an amazing job under the most difficult and, I suspect, at times, hugely frustrating circumstances. Along with the police and our Armed Forces, much of what they...

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Baroness Buscombe (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc714-6
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House of Lords

Does the noble Baroness consider that there should be any rights of appeal at all about a decision?

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Lord Clinton-Davis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 c716
House
House of Lords

I would hope that the noble Lord would wait a moment. I am about to come to judicial oversight. I am talking now about the ability in principle and practice to have a TEO. If he can wait, I think he will be pleased to hear what I have to...

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Baroness Buscombe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc716-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it goes without saying that we are united in our abhorrence of violent terrorism, not least as our debate takes place under the shadow of the appalling murders in Paris. However, the magnificent solidaristic reaction in France and beyond reminds us of the values our Government seek to...

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Baroness Lister of Burtersett (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc718-721
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House of Lords

My Lords, the terrible events in Paris last week give great grief without measurable mitigation. Nevertheless, such events provoke an instructive debate in which we have an opportunity to reassess some of the beliefs we have about the way in which politics, legislation and the authorities should deal with issues...

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Lord Carlile of Berriew (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc720-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my membership of the Royal United Services Institute’s independent surveillance review. I share the threat and risk assessments that are the motive power behind the Bill, and I share the natural and, perhaps, instinctive regret of many who live in an open society such as ours...

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Lord Hennessy of Nympsfield (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc723-6
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House of Lords

To fight against terrorism effectively is absolutely vital but we need to be careful about how we do it, and we should not try to cut corners in any way. There is a real danger with hastily prepared legislation that it might be error-prone, and this Bill may well, unhappily,...

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Lord Clinton-Davis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 c726
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House of Lords

My Lords, I add my congratulations to the noble Lords, Lord Evans and Lord Green, on their excellent contributions to today’s debate. I look forward to further contributions from them.

I support the aims of this Bill and almost all of the proposals within it. As a former commissioner of police,...

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Lord Condon (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc726-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I add my congratulations to the noble Lords, Lord Evans of Weardale and Lord Green of Deddington, on their maiden speeches and their thoughtful and insightful interventions on these vital issues of national security. Their experience is timely and we should all express our gratitude to them for...

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Baroness Shields (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 January 2015
Reference
758 cc728-730
House
House of Lords