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National Insurance Contributions (Rate Ceilings) Bill 2015-16

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I will come on to my party’s manifesto commitments in a very short while. I do not think it is helpful, and I am not going to respond, to any interventions or points made by Government Members that refer to

things the current Leader of the Opposition said before he...

Member
Baroness Keeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 cc930-1
House
House of Commons

I do not think that the hon. Gentleman is listening. I know that Conservative Members often sit there with their Whip’s brief and try to find a way of working in some point that the Whips have given them to say. [Interruption.] I do not know what the hon. Gentleman...

Member
Baroness Keeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c934
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

This Bill implements our manifesto commitment not to increase national insurance contributions for employers and employees. It will be interesting to discover whether it will be opposed by Her Majesty’s Opposition now that their new leader favours a...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c926
House
House of Commons

I am sorry to intervene so early in the Minister’s speech, but for the sake of clarity will she explain the long title to the Bill, which appears to apply only to class 1 national insurance contributions? I presume that the other classes will be covered in due course.

Member
Lady Hermon (Independent (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c926
House
House of Commons

My remarks will be so short that hon. Members will need to intervene quickly with their points of clarification on this five-clause Bill. The hon. Lady will be aware that in the summer Budget the Chancellor announced that we are asking the Office of Tax Simplification to look at class...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c926
House
House of Commons

Can the Minister clarify what assessment she has made of the number of self-employed people who may apply for an exemption from paying class 2 contributions, especially as at least half of the increase in employment is self-employed people and, on average, self-employment incomes have fallen to less than £10,000?

Member
Debbie Abrahams (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c926
House
House of Commons

We are very pleased that we are backing those who want to take a chance, start their own business and become self-employed. In fact, we have taken measures in previous Budgets to simplify the process so that self-employed people can consider making those contributions alongside their self-assessment.

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c926
House
House of Commons

Has the Minister done an impact assessment on public services—for example, the impact that the Bill will have on the national health service and benefits?

Member
Jim Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

I am delighted to hear the first bid from the Opposition not to freeze national insurance for employers and employees. As the hon. Gentleman will know, national insurance contributes a substantial sum to the Exchequer and we have committed as a Government to continue to increase the amount of money...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

The Minister should not twist my words. I asked her about the impact of the Bill.

Member
Jim Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

Of course, the impact of freezing national insurance for employers and employees is that throughout the life of this Parliament they can have the confidence that their national insurance rates will not change—a confidence they would not have if the hon. Gentleman had any say in it.

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

The Minister’s team might helpfully do something about the fact that if one searches online for the impact of this Bill, one gets a 404 error message. It would be useful to have some view on the Bill’s impact.

Member
Baroness Keeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

I thank the hon. Lady for her sensible suggestion. I know that those who put together the impact assessment online will have taken her wise words to heart and will make a change. Clearly, when one brings in legislation to freeze national insurance rates, the impact is that there is...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

I have businesses in my constituency that work hard and do the right thing. They do not want to be clobbered with more taxes. The impact of the Bill is that if people do the right thing and work hard, the Government will support them to succeed in life.

Member
Rehman Chishti (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

I thank my hon. Friend for making that excellent point. The Government want to back small businesses, entrepreneurs and those who want the certainty over the next five years that if they employ five people on the new national living wage, they will not have to pay any national insurance...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

May I press the Minister on the point I made in my earlier intervention, which she did not actually answer? What assessment has she made of the number of self-employed people who earn so little that they could apply for an exemption from class 2 national insurance contributions?

Member
Debbie Abrahams (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

When one starts out in business, it is often the case that one earns a small amount, but it is those fantastic people who start businesses, often at their kitchen table, whom the Government are trying to back with the measures in the Bill, which will give them a certainty...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c927
House
House of Commons

Freezing NI is important for my constituents, many of whom are low wage earners and have benefited tremendously over the last few years from the dramatic rise we have seen in the personal allowance. Does my hon. Friend agree that hard-working people already pay enough in tax?

Member
Andrew Stephenson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c928
House
House of Commons

I certainly agree that the Government are keen to take steps to back an economy that continues to grow and to create jobs so that everyone can have the dignity of taking home a pay cheque or starting their own business. We have taken other steps in the Finance Bill...

Member
Harriett Baldwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c928
House
House of Commons

Surely the Minister has not forgotten that in the lifetime of the previous Parliament—from 2010 to 2015—no fewer than 24 tax increases were put on working people by her Government. The latest Budget also includes the tax increase on insurance premiums.

Member
Andrew Gwynne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
599 c928
House
House of Commons