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My Lords, first, I welcome the Minister. I will not add to her burdens by trying to find another metaphor for the difficult position she is in. We have had poisoned chalices and hand grenades, but I am sure she would be more than capable of dealing with all that....

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2177-9
House
House of Lords

I have the greatest respect for the noble Lord, Lord O’Shaughnessy, who we feel did a great job while he was in the department as a Minister, but does he not see that this is indeed a Brexit Bill? Out there in the community, people voting in the referendum said,...

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Lord Winston (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
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795 c2181
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House of Lords

I take the noble Lord’s personal assurances on that. Who could disagree with what he has just said about the need to have these sorts of vigorous, expansive and generous trading arrangements, which we hope will involve skills, health and knowledge? My question is really: why are these powers in...

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Baroness Andrews (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 c2182
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House of Lords

My Lords, I listened to the first part of the debate today, and I add my welcome to the Minister to her new post. I regret that I was unable to be here at Second Reading because of a commitment that I could not cancel, and I declare that I...

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2200-1
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House of Lords

My Lords, within this grouping I support Amendment 10, spoken to just now by the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton.

As indicated, its objective is for current arrangements to be retained as they are. Certainly the Government would wish that in any case—and for the successful negotiation of a new healthcare arrangement...

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Earl of Dundee (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 c2203
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House of Lords

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 9 in this group, which, as the noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler, has indicated, differs from

Amendment 6 in only one respect: through its reference to the European court. It is intended as a probing amendment.

It may have been implied that post Brexit we...

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Earl of Dundee (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2210-1
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House of Lords

My Lords, in this group, I support Amendments 18 and 19, which were addressed by the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes of Cumnock. As with a number of earlier amendments, here there are two specifications, each of which serves a clear and useful purpose: giving assurance without applying any onerous impositions.

In...

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Earl of Dundee (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2217-8
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House of Lords

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group. They go to the very heart of the human aspect of healthcare provision. If you have a sick child who needs to go to a cardiology clinic, you may well have other children, and you need to be able to look...

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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 c2219
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am moving this amendment on behalf of the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, and myself.

Amendment 16 seeks to tackle the difficult issue of cost recovery—which we started to debate in the previous group of amendments—and states simply:

“The Secretary of State must grant funding to NHS Trusts sufficient to...

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Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2246-8
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, leave out “outside the United Kingdom” and insert “in a European Economic Area country or Switzerland”

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Baroness Thornton (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 c2165
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House of Lords

My Lords, I start by welcoming the Minister to her first experience of the House of Lords in Committee. I hope that it will not be too painful an experience and I wish her well over the next two days in Committee.

In moving Amendment 1, I shall speak also to...

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Baroness Thornton (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2166-8
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House of Lords

My Lords, before addressing the amendments in my name and the names of my noble and learned friend Lord Judge and my noble friend Lord Kakkar—the clause stand part debate and Amendments 5 and 44—I welcome the Minister to the House and to her first experience of Committee. I sympathise...

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Lord Patel (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2168-9
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House of Lords

My Lords, this should be Brexit legislation. If it were, in accordance with the withdrawal agreement, subject to minor changes, the established arrangements for healthcare between the United Kingdom and the European Union would continue during the transitional period until December 2020, 21 months after exit day, which is where...

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Lord Judge (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2169-2172
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House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her letter, but I rather feel that it posed as many questions as it has answered. Much of what I was going

to be talking about with this group of amendments has been said very elegantly by the noble and learned Lord, Lord...

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Baroness Jolly (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2171-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, first, I apologise to the Committee for not having been able to speak at Second Reading. Secondly, I welcome the Minister to her new post and wish her well with it, although I am sorry, like the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, that she has been given...

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Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2173-4
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House of Lords

One can see why, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, would be attractive, as it focuses our minds on restoring reciprocal healthcare arrangements with the EU 27, other EEA countries and Switzerland. As I said on Second Reading, a disproportionate...

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Lord Ribeiro (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 c2174
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House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to welcome the new noble Baroness to the Front Bench and I echo the welcome offered by other noble Lords. I am only sorry that the first task that has fallen to her is, as described by my noble and learned friend Lord...

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Lord Lisvane (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
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19 February 2019
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795 cc2174-6
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House of Lords

My Lords, I associate myself entirely with the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Lisvane. We have been here before. We went through these issues many times last year, when a number of us spoke about constitutional issues. I want to concentrate my remarks there today. Before doing so, I...

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Lord Cormack (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2175-7
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House of Lords

Perhaps noble Lords will allow me to follow the noble Baroness, given that she made specific reference to some of the comments I made on Second Reading and previously.

I have listened carefully, as I always do—and always did as a Minister—to the views expressed by noble Lords whether through the...

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Lord O'Shaughnessy (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 cc2179-2181
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House of Lords

I am not sure that the noble Lord, Lord O’Shaughnessy, is helping the Minister in his exposition. Certainly he is convincing me that we need to have two Bills. Perhaps I may ask the noble Lord why all the documentation accompanying this Bill starts with the words, “This Bill is...

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Baroness Thornton (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
19 February 2019
Reference
795 c2181
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House of Lords