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Air Traffic Management and Unmanned Aircraft Bill (HL) 2019-21

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Department for Transport
Type
Deposited papers
Date
11 January 2021
Reference
DEP2021-0021
House
House of Lords
Deposited by
Department for Transport
Type
Deposited papers
Date
18 December 2020
Reference
DEP2021-0006
House
House of Lords

My Lords, aviation has long been at the heart of the United Kingdom’s economic success. This is an industry that contributes at least £22 billion to the UK economy, along with over 230,000 jobs, and it is growing to meet rising demand. Passenger numbers have increased for seven consecutive years,...

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Baroness Vere of Norbiton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1264-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her comprehensive introduction to the Bill. I also declare a number of pecuniary interests, as a former airline pilot and the occasional user of uncontrolled airspace. The Bill deals with the important issues of air space, air traffic and unmanned aerial vehicles. Technology...

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Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1268-1270
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend Lady Randerson was unavoidably delayed, although I am pleased that she is now with us. Because of that late arrival, she will not take part in Second Reading and I will open for these Benches on this Bill. Thankfully, she has promised to do the...

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Lord McNally (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1270-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am happy to support the purposes of the Bill. The first two parts, dealing with our very dated airspace management and air traffic services, are timely. Periodic review and update of airport departure and approach procedures are necessary. No airline operator wants to climb away many miles...

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Lord Craig of Radley (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1272-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare two interests. In the course of my professional activity as an executive search consultant, I work with a number of aerospace and defence companies, some of which are involved in UAV or counter-UAV and related technologies. I also hold a humble private pilot’s licence and am...

Member
Viscount Goschen (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1274-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her comprehensive introduction to the Bill. I apologise to her for not coming to her briefing meeting, but I hope that nevertheless she can answer some of my points.

Broadly speaking, I support the intentions of this Bill. I guess I have two interests...

Member
Lord Whitty (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1276-9
House
House of Lords

Does my noble friend agree that one of the problems is that we have such a successful drone industry that it has been loath to allow regulation to take place, but it really has to do so because there is now such a dangerous risk?

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Lord West of Spithead (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1279
House
House of Lords

I agree entirely with my noble friend, and I think there are elements within the industry itself that recognise that. As with other new technologies, an industry begins to come of age when it begins to accept and contribute to better regulation to mitigate the problems in its sector.

I will...

Member
Lord Whitty (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1279
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is my privilege to have been an RAF pilot, flying both fixed-wing pistons and jets. I have flown extensively in Pakistan, Canada and the United Kingdom. More recently, my family gave me an hour in a Tiger Moth for my 80th birthday, so I have gone from...

Member
Lord Naseby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1279-1281
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not intend to rehearse what others have said, only to underline a few things. May I turn to resources? It is essential that the Civil Aviation Authority has sufficient resources to do the job it is asked to do. If it is being kept short of...

Member
Lord Bradshaw (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1281
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord will remember Christmas a year ago when the drone—or drones—caused so much trouble at Gatwick. The police and the authorities seemed to have great difficulty in identifying the drone and the person controlling it. It is fine to have more police powers, but how will they be...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1281
House
House of Lords

I think that probably comes down to licensing operators and drones.

My final point is about the disabling of stray drones, or drones that should not be there. I am no expert on aviation, but has consideration been given to the means of disabling drones engaged in criminal activity or straying...

Member
Lord Bradshaw (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1282
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in general I welcome the Bill. I declare my interest as a pilot, a former airport board member and chair of the inquiry set up by the All-Party Parliamentary Group on General Aviation last year, looking into the UK’s lower airspace. I will concentrate most of my remarks...

Member
Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1282-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a real pleasure to speak at Second Reading and to follow my noble friend Lord Kirkhope, who is to be congratulated on the report he produced, having conducted the inquiry into airspace on behalf of the all-party group. I declare an interest as co-chair of the...

Member
Lord Davies of Gower (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1284-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I want to speak briefly on Part 3 of the Bill, entitled “Unmanned Aircraft”.

I understand that the Bill makes new provisions

“for constables to allow them to better enforce UA provisions in the ANO 2016”

and includes

“powers to require an unmanned aircraft to be grounded, powers to stop and search...

Member
Lord Campbell-Savours (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1287
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I appear unique in being able to speak in the debate without having any direct specialist knowledge or experience of the issues in the Bill.

The Bill confers new government powers on changing the design of airspace, alters the licensing framework for air traffic control and provides new powers...

Member
Lord Rosser (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1287-1291
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have participated in today’s wide-ranging debate. The Government will respond to all the questions raised—unfortunately, probably not all today, but I will endeavour to get a communal letter out to all noble Lords who have participated so that, in advance of Committee,...

Member
Baroness Vere of Norbiton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 cc1288-1293
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for her detailed explanation. In preparation for this debate, which I have not spoken in, I asked the CAA about the control of airspace. I concur with the Minister that it is complicated. However, the appeal process for an aerodrome—as the Bill puts it—that wants to...

Member
Baroness Randerson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 January 2020
Reference
801 c1293
House
House of Lords