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Amendment 20 to clause 16 negatived on division (5 to 8). Amendment 21 to clause 16 negatived on division (5 to 8). Amendment 91 to clause 16 negatived on division (5 to 8). Clauses 16 to 18 agreed to. Amendment 95 to clause 19 negatived on division (2 to 8)....

Lead member
Alex Burghart
Answering member
Florence Eshalomi
Department
Cabinet Office
Type
Debates on bills; Public Bill Committee proceedings
Committee
Procurement Bill (HL) Committee
Date
2 February 2023
House
House of Commons

Lords report stage first day. Amendment 1 agreed to. Amendment 3 (to amendment 2) agreed to on division (196 to 183). Amendment 2, as amended, agreed to. Amendments 5 to 8, 10 to 22, 24 to 32, 34 and 39 to 40 agreed to. Amendment 46 agreed to on division...

Lead member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe; Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist
Answering member
Lord Coaker; Baroness Hayman of Ullock
Department
Cabinet Office
Type
Debates on bills
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1575-1660
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Procurement and covered procurement

(1) In this Act—

(a) “procurement” means the award, entry into and management of a contract;

(b) “covered procurement” means the award, entry into and management of a public contract.

(2) In this Act, a reference to a procurement or...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 c1575
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as we begin Report, I start by thanking noble Lords for their contributions in Committee, and for the lively debate there. For

those in the House coming to it fresh today, I say that this is an important Bill which follows two years of hard work and preparation,...

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Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1575-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendments 3 and 173. I thank the Minister and the noble Lord, Lord True, for responding to my questions, in private meetings but also at previous

stages of the Bill, about why the NHS is treated differently from every other part of the...

Member
Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1577-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 3 and 17 tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton. In so doing, I echo what she said about how this Bill is better than the place we started from. Having spoken at Second Reading and in Committee and attended the meeting that...

Member
Lord Alton of Liverpool (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1579-1581
House
House of Lords

Oh!

Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 c1580
House
House of Lords

The millions and the thousands can multiply very rapidly in this debate. I apologise, but I think you get the point. It is over £20 million in the course of a year—£770,000 each and every single day.

I gave the noble Baroness notice of my intention to ask about this. Who...

Member
Lord Alton of Liverpool (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1580-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Alton. When he speaks about the frailty of the NHS supply chain—I must declare my past presidency of the Health Care Supply Association—I am sure he is absolutely right to put these penetrating questions to the Minister.

I...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1582-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have Amendments 4 and 190 in this group. Some questions have been raised by the Benches opposite about whether I was here for the commencement of the debate. I assure the House that I heard every word of the Minister’s opening remarks from my place and I...

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1583-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have no amendment in this group, but I want to refer to government Amendment 34. I entirely agree with the proposition that the Bill enables public procurement to be put on a better path than it has been in the past. Many of those working in procurement...

Member
Lord Lansley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1584-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise briefly having attached my name to Amendment 173 in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, and the noble Lord, Lord Scriven. I attempted to attach my name to Amendment 3, but somehow that transferred to government Amendment 2, which I am guessing everyone has...

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Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1585-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have a very specific point to raise by way of reassurance. It is clear from the debate so far that these are complex areas that are particularly complicated because of the interaction between this Bill and the previous Health and Social Care Act; I wish my noble...

Member
Lord Maude of Horsham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1586-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we will return to the question of not-for-profits, mutuals and social enterprises in group 6, when we have Amendments 41 and 123 in my name and the name of my noble friend Lord Fox. I very much hope that we will have the support of the noble Lord,...

Member
Lord Wallace of Saltaire (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 c1587
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister and her predecessor for their engagement with us and other noble Lords on this Bill as it made its progress through your Lordships’ House. I join with other noble Lords in saying to the Minister that we all believe, from where I am speaking,...

Member
Lord Coaker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1587-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendment 3, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, of Kenardington, and the noble Lord, Lord Scriven, of Hunters Bar, would, as the noble Baroness said, explicitly name the NHS in the definition of a contracting authority. We are also debating Amendment 173, to which the noble Baroness,...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1589-1591
House
House of Lords

Like most noble Lords, probably, I have listened to what has just been said and am more confused now than when the Minister started. I ask a very simple question: if the Bill applied to NHS procurement, as it does to the rest of the public sector, would it not...

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Lord Scriven (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 c1592
House
House of Lords

That is a point, but I did try to explain in my introduction that there was concern during the passage of the Health and Care Act, to which I was not party, that the NHS arrangements—I see that the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is nodding her head. Perhaps she is...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 c1592
House
House of Lords

The important thing the House needs to hear is that during the passage of the Health and Care Act, Members from all sides of your Lordships’ House asked repeatedly why special arrangements were being made for NHS procurement when we knew that there was a Procurement Bill coming down the...

Member
Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 c1592
House
House of Lords

I think I have been clear on the background to why it is different. I have also promised that regulations and guidance are being put together and will make very clear the differences: where the NHS rules need to apply and where the Procurement Bill needs to apply. That is...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1592-3
House
House of Lords