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Joint Enterprise (Significant Contribution) Bill 2023-24

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On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I do not wish to drag you into the debate; I am simply requesting a procedural clarification.

The Minister has just said that the Government are unable to support the Bill in its current form. In other words, they are not supporting it...

Member
John McDonnell (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 cc1153-4
House
House of Commons

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. What is going on? There is a feeling at the moment that junior Ministers will not take interventions, which is against the whole spirit of a Friday open debate. What is the matter? All I want to know is whether the Minister...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1151
House
House of Commons

Second reading. Debate adjourned. To be resumed 21 June.

Lead member
Kim Johnson
Answering member
Janet Daby; Gareth Bacon
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates on bills
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 cc1121-1155
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Before I begin, I pay tribute to the incredible people who have made it possible for us to be here today, challenging the shocking miscarriage of justice that is joint enterprise. I want to say a massive thanks...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 cc1121-2
House
House of Commons

I congratulate my hon. Friend on her excellent Bill. The work by all the people she has mentioned, including Joint Enterprise Not Guilty by Association, on the Bill has been so important. The Supreme Court has said that joint enterprise has been wrongly interpreted by criminal trial judges for the...

Member
Dawn Butler (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

I do, and I will come to that point later in my speech.

I thank the cross-party sponsors of my Bill, notably the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Sir Robert Neill), the esteemed Chair of the Justice Committee. His support throughout this process has been invaluable and has demonstrated clearly...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making a powerful speech. She mentioned the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Sir Robert Neill). His support shows the cross-party support for looking at how a majority of our young people are wrongly criminalised and locked behind bars, and their lives thrown away. Does she...

Member
Florence Eshalomi (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

I totally agree with my hon. Friend’s point about the criminalisation of our young black people. We need cross-party consensus.

Lastly, I thank my A-team, Becky and Charley, who have been truly amazing.

Before I begin my arguments, I recognise that this is an incredibly difficult and sensitive topic, because behind each...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making an excellent contribution about a very important Bill. Does she agree that many of the predominantly young people ensnared by joint enterprise come from inner-city black communities? Their families are devastated and often lack the media and political connections to mount an urgent and rapid...

Member
Jeremy Corbyn (Independent (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

I agree that the Bill will look at righting those wrongs and challenging those miscarriages of justice.

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

Can the hon. Lady confirm whether the leader of her party supports the Bill?

Member
Philip Davies (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1122
House
House of Commons

I can confirm that the party will be looking at this Bill when we are in power and when we get rid of—well, when we are in power.

It is possible both to uphold the law by providing powers to prosecute those who play a significant role in a crime and...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1123
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that the campaign on joint enterprise is not about guilty people getting off, but about having a justice system that works for everyone? The Chair of the Justice Committee and I co-chair the all-party parliamentary group on miscarriages of justice, and we believe that this...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1123
House
House of Commons

I totally agree with my hon. Friend, and I will cover some of those points in my speech. I hope that the Minister will listen closely to the arguments I put forward today and fully consider this opportunity to end this injustice, which has destroyed so many lives and places...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1123
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making a powerful speech. Research including the 2022 report from the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies has found that following the landmark 2016 Supreme Court judgment, which had been expected to lead to a reduction in these types of prosecutions and convictions, not only has...

Member
Apsana Begum (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1123
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a valid point on the consequences of the landmark case of Ameen Jogee, whose mum is in the Gallery today. People are being given mandatory life sentences for murders that they did not commit. Thousands have been locked up for life because they have been deemed,...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1123
House
House of Commons

I compliment my hon. Friend on bringing forward this private Member’s Bill. Through her good offices, I have had the opportunity to meet some of the families involved. To describe some of the cases as egregious injustices is no understatement. One of the appalling things I have found is the...

Member
Grahame Morris (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1123
House
House of Commons

I thank my hon. Friend for raising that point and particularly for raising the Justice for Jay Abatan campaign, which is very similar to the Stephen Lawrence campaign.

The Centre for Crime and Justice Studies suggests that the 2016 judgment had little to no effect on the number of joint enterprise...

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1124
House
House of Commons

May I compliment the hon. Lady on bringing forward this Bill? I am very grateful to her, because it has enabled me to look at some of the background information in the note that she sent and at some of the judgments that the Supreme Court made, which I would...

Member
Richard Fuller (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 cc1124-5
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member makes some valid points, and these issues have been raised by the campaign groups. Life has meant life for people prosecuted under joint enterprise—often 27 years and upwards, but starting with 14 years. This is the miscarriage that we are looking at.

I want to give some examples....

Member
Kim Johnson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 February 2024
Reference
744 c1125
House
House of Commons