If the noble Baroness were to listen carefully to what the noble Baroness, Lady Sugg, said and to read the amendments that have been tabled, the clause is about any interference—no matter the motivation of it—within that 150-metre zone. It would apply exactly to the point she has just made.

If the noble Baroness were to listen carefully to what the noble Baroness, Lady Sugg, said and to read the amendments that have been tabled, the clause is about any interference—no matter the motivation of it—within that 150-metre zone. It would apply exactly to the point she has just made.

My Lords, I made an extensive speech at Second Reading so I shall confine myself to just a few points of reflection on the debate today.

First, the rest of the Bill is about protest; this is about the harassment of people seeking a legal health service to which they...

My Lords, I made an extensive speech at Second Reading so I shall confine myself to just a few points of reflection on the debate today.

First, the rest of the Bill is about protest; this is about the harassment of people seeking a legal health service to which they...

I very much welcome the noble and learned Lord’s help in trying to find a suitable wording for what we are seeking to do. I want

to inform your Lordships’ House of what is happening: there are individual acts that, one by one, may not be intimidating but, put together...

I very much welcome the noble and learned Lord’s help in trying to find a suitable wording for what we are seeking to do. I want

to inform your Lordships’ House of what is happening: there are individual acts that, one by one, may not be intimidating but, put together...

I do not think there is any doubt about that; the evidence is—

I do not think there is any doubt about that; the evidence is—

The noble Lord, Lord Farmer, raised a question about the intimidation of women in clinics. He knows that clinics are regulated by the Department of Health and Social Care and the CQC and that it is expressly against the terms of their licence to do that; if they were found...

The noble Lord, Lord Farmer, raised a question about the intimidation of women in clinics. He knows that clinics are regulated by the Department of Health and Social Care and the CQC and that it is expressly against the terms of their licence to do that; if they were found...

I suggest that the noble Lord goes back and reads the clause and the terms of interference. I do not think that what he describes comes under that, which is why the noble Baroness, Lady Sugg, and I are trying to make sure that this law is as explicit and...

I suggest that the noble Lord goes back and reads the clause and the terms of interference. I do not think that what he describes comes under that, which is why the noble Baroness, Lady Sugg, and I are trying to make sure that this law is as explicit and...

The answer is that the situation has moved on, so what was an answer before the existence of PSPOs is no longer relevant.

I have said enough. I think we all know where we are on this and the positions we came from. I would like to work with those Members...

The answer is that the situation has moved on, so what was an answer before the existence of PSPOs is no longer relevant.

I have said enough. I think we all know where we are on this and the positions we came from. I would like to work with those Members...

My Lords, I speak on this Bill solely on the issue of Clause 9 and, in the course of my speech, I will rebut many of the arguments made by the noble Lords, Lord McAvoy and Lord Farmer, and the noble Baroness, Lady O’Loan—this will come as no surprise to...

My Lords, I speak on this Bill solely on the issue of Clause 9 and, in the course of my speech, I will rebut many of the arguments made by the noble Lords, Lord McAvoy and Lord Farmer, and the noble Baroness, Lady O’Loan—this will come as no surprise to...