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To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions what proportion of pensioners in 2020 are expected to have (a) 35, (b) 30 to 35, (c) 20 to 29, (d) 10 to 19, (e) seven to nine and (f) fewer than seven qualifying years.

[160973]

Asked by
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Answering body
Work and Pensions
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
24 June 2013
Reference
160973; 565 c28W
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way so early in his speech, which we are following with great interest. Will he clarify—he may not want to at this stage—whether he plans to table any amendments to schedule 12(14), which says that the flat-rate pension will be...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c648
House
House of Commons

I wanted to catch the right hon. Gentleman’s eye before he left that point. With reference to honouring the past, can he confirm to the House that going forward under the transitional arrangements, those rights that have been built up in STP will be uprated by CPI?

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c651
House
House of Commons

It is a great pleasure to follow the Secretary of State. I shall attempt to do justice to his succinct speech. As he will know, yesterday was a very difficult day in Birmingham, and I know that the whole House will join me in sending thanks and good wishes to...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 cc654-5
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman will be as familiar as I am with the research published by the Institute for Fiscal Studies showing that, under Labour, £11 billion more was spent than if we had pursued the policies that we inherited in 1997. We lifted gross income for pensioners by more than...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c655
House
House of Commons

We are very proud of the reforms that we set in place. They tackled the grotesque pensioner poverty that we inherited in 1997. That is not simply my conclusion; when the pensions Minister spoke in the House back in 2000, he pretty much confirmed the same line of argument and...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 cc655-6
House
House of Commons

I will leave it to the hon. Gentleman to provide his own definition of the word “huge.” He will have read chapter 4 of “The single-tier pension: a simple foundation for saving”, published by the Department for Work and Pensions, which clearly says that under the current system, the number...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 cc656-7
House
House of Commons

We were ambitious and wanted to focus our resources on tackling pensioner poverty. I am reluctant to take too many lessons from the Secretary of State. The 1986 cap introduced by Lord Lawson led to a huge drop in contributions to occupational schemes. In fact, the pensions Minister himself said:

“Pensioners...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 cc657-8
House
House of Commons

I will give way in a moment. I will just flag another issue that the pensions Minister might say a word about when he intervenes.

There is an uplift to 35 years-worth of contributions being required before 100% entitlement to the flat-rate pension is enjoyed. That was not the original plan...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c658
House
House of Commons

I suspected that the pensions Minister would want to play politics with this issue. However, I hope that we can engage on it constructively in Committee.

The DWP has published estimates that show that the cost of including those women will be about £220 million a year. I say gently to...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c658
House
House of Commons

It is hard to refute my hon. Friend’s argument. I suppose we must look at the position of those women together with the consequences of the reforms that the Secretary of State has authored to auto-enrolment—I know he will do that. One of the first decisions he took in the...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c659
House
House of Commons

I very much hope that the hon. Lady will be on the Bill Committee to ensure that such arguments are fully rehearsed. I am worried that an injustice is being perpetrated on these women, which is why it is incumbent on us all to search every possible option to help...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c659
House
House of Commons

As the hon. Gentleman will know, many of these women have already been hit by the acceleration of the state pension age at very short notice, so no—we want to search during Committee stage for ways to include these women. I know there will be many women in such a...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c659
House
House of Commons

No—[Interruption.] I will certainly give way to the Minister in a moment, but I want to underline one final aspect of universalism and the increases in the state pension age to which the Secretary of State referred. The Opposition will not stand in the way of proposals in the Bill...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c660
House
House of Commons

The Minister is right. I was referring to the problem that the state pension age has been moved a number of times in the past three years. The Opposition believe that it is unwise of the Secretary of State to ask for the right to review the pension age every...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c660
House
House of Commons

I will move on, but I will give way in a moment.

A flat-rate pension is a good idea and its virtue should be widely enjoyed. It should be a universal system. During the passage of the Bill, the Opposition will look at how we can maximise its inclusivity and universal...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c660
House
House of Commons

The Secretary of State and I have no difference of opinion on the need regularly to review the state pension age. My point is that we have introduced a number of changes in the past three years and an environment of instability and risk has been created. The Opposition worry...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c661
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. My chief concern in this debate on principles is for the long-term bargain to be put on a secure footing. It would be wrong to lead the self-employed up the proverbial garden path by offering a great deal, clapping everyone on the back...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 cc662-3
House
House of Commons

rose—

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c695
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady makes an important argument that I am following with great interest. The Opposition are trying to say that this is an extraordinary deal for the self-employed, who are paying half the national insurance contributions of everybody else but still enjoying 100% of the pension. The key assurance...

Member
Liam Byrne (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
17 June 2013
Reference
564 c695
House
House of Commons