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I must begin by saying that I do not have to declare an interest in the debate today, in that I am not related in any way to any member of the royal family—unlike some Members of the House. Nor am I related to a Welsh saint; I have been...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 cc718-9
House
House of Commons

I thought that the hon. Gentleman might come back with that response. However, the difficulty with the regency legislation is that there is more than one Act. There have been a number of amending Acts. He referred to the 1937 Act, but since then there have been what some people...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 c719
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister accept the reality of change in this extremely complex constitutional area? Whatever the moral arguments in favour of change, they must nevertheless be matched to the practicalities of constitutional change and achieving the necessary consensus to bring about that change.

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 c723
House
House of Commons

We have had a good debate today, and there were excellent debates last week on Second Reading and in Committee. I am glad the Government made the right decision to allow sufficient time for a proper and full debate in the House.

As I have said before, although the Bill is...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 cc731-2
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman says the Act is redundant. Would it not be more accurate to say that it is a ridiculous piece of legislation?

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 c736
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way?

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 c739
House
House of Commons

I have no objection at all—the Minister can say it again if she likes.

My hon. Friend the Member for Rhondda (Chris Bryant) mentioned how the six people nearest in line to the throne could lose their place if the Queen did not consent to their marriage. It is important to...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 c739
House
House of Commons

Bill further considered as amended in Committee. Amendments withdrawn. New clause 1 negatived on division (371 to 38). Third reading debate agreed on question. Bill passed.

Lead member
Tom Brake
Answering member
Wayne David
Department
Cabinet Office
Type
Debates on bills
Date
28 January 2013
Reference
557 cc694-739
House
House of Commons

As the Minister knows, we support the Bill, particularly clauses 2 and 3. However, a number of Members have raised the issue that the hon. Member for Rochester and Strood (Mark Reckless) just mentioned. He put it very well, and there appears to be a contradiction, or at least a...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c277
House
House of Commons

The Opposition strongly support the Bill. The Labour Government, under the premiership of my right hon. Friend the Member for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath (Mr Brown), began the work on the changes that we see in it. I am pleased to say that our manifesto for the 2010 general election stated:

“Our...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 cc215-6
House
House of Commons

That is an interesting point, and I am sure there was a very good reason, but I do not think it is germane to our discussion today.

There has been extensive consultation on the Bill, and I note the consent of the Queen, as expressed by the Deputy Prime Minister at...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 cc216-7
House
House of Commons

We are talking about the monarch of the United Kingdom, not everybody else in the country. We have to acknowledge that we have a constitutional monarchy that is quite unique.

The origins of the current stipulation are in ancient common law, whereby the monarch has a duty and right of care...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c217
House
House of Commons

That is an interesting hypothetical question, and I would certainly welcome the Minister’s response, as it is the Government who have put forward the figure of six.

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c217
House
House of Commons

I suppose it would be up to the individual to decide to do that, but we are talking not about the actions of an individual in certain circumstances but about what the law requires them to do.

I referred to the Commonwealth. We are pleased that the Government have received final...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c218
House
House of Commons

With all due respect, I do not think that is the case. The Bill strikes a balance between modernity, which we accept we need to acknowledge, and recognising that the Church of England is central to the life of this country and its monarchy. I think a good balance has...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c218
House
House of Commons

Disestablishment is, of course, a reality as both my hon. Friend and I readily acknowledge. We must recognise that the monarch has a different relationship with the Church of England and the Church in Wales, and my hon. Friend is right to point out that distinction.

I mentioned unintended consequences. Hon....

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c218
House
House of Commons

I suspect that the hon. Gentleman is correct, but if we are to have a package that is watertight and constitutionally thought through, consequences of that type should be addressed as a matter of importance.

A number of Members have referred to the important issue of the relationship between Church and...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c219
House
House of Commons

Of course we cannot guarantee it, but I have faith in the democratic process and the co-operation that exists across the House, and that these serious issues will be addressed properly. It is important that such matters are considered sensibly here as well as in the other place. I am...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 cc219-220
House
House of Commons

My reading of history is that when Llywelyn was defeated by Edward I, a promise was indeed made. The King of England at that time could not, of course, speak Welsh, but he could not speak English either. He spoke Norman French. It is important to make that point when...

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c220
House
House of Commons

Would the hon. Gentleman acknowledge that the Tudor line began with Henry VII, who was a Welshman?

Member
Wayne David (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 January 2013
Reference
557 c227
House
House of Commons