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To ask His Majesty's Government, following the announcement that both the five planned Type 32 and the planned Type 83 ships will now be replaced by six Common Combat Vessels, what assessment they have made of the impact of the reduction in the number of ships on naval capabilities.
To ask His Majesty's Government, following the announcement that both the five planned Type 32 and the planned Type 83 ships will now be replaced by six Common Combat Vessels, what assessment they have made of the impact of the reduction in the number of ships on naval capabilities.
I refer the noble lady to the answer given to Question 118566 in the House of Commons on 16 March 2026.
The size and composition of the Royal Navy are kept under continuous review to ensure the force can meet Defence tasks and operational commitments.
To ask His Majesty's Government when the national conversation on defence and security recommended by the Strategic Defence Review will be instigated; and where ministerial responsibility for this will lie.
To ask His Majesty's Government when the national conversation on defence and security recommended by the Strategic Defence Review will be instigated; and where ministerial responsibility for this will lie.
The National Conversation is essential to promote unity of effort across society and support a whole-of-society approach to UK deterrence and defence. In many ways, the conversation has already begun, as evidenced in the Prime Minister’s statement evidence at the Liaison’s Committee on 23 March and reinforced by the Prime Minister’s remarks on 5 June, highlighting that we are living in more dangerous and volatile times with increasing state backed attacks across the UK and other countries.
This Government is committed to strengthening national preparedness and the communication of threats through the Prime Minister-led national conversation to increase public awareness of the most serious risks we face. As confirmed in a Written Ministerial Statement to Parliament on 14 July, the Government will launch a national resilience public awareness campaign later this year. The Ministry of Defence is playing a key role within the programme of work, aligned Cabinet Office-led Home Defence Programme, to facilitate a whole of society approach to defence and security.
To ask His Majesty's Government which Royal Naval assets are currently in a state of war readiness and available for immediate deployment.
To ask His Majesty's Government which Royal Naval assets are currently in a state of war readiness and available for immediate deployment.
All Royal Navy ships rotate through planned operating cycles involving routine maintenance, repair, training, deployment, leave, essential modification and upgrades and will, therefore, be at varying levels of readiness in accordance with Defence requirements.
It is longstanding policy not to comment on the readiness state of individual ships in detail, as to do so would prejudice the capability, operational effectiveness and security of the Armed Forces
To ask His Majesty's Government what progress has been made to date in unlocking £6 billion of structural simplification and internal process improvements to be delivered in this current parliament, as recommended by the Strategic Defence Review.
To ask His Majesty's Government what progress has been made to date in unlocking £6 billion of structural simplification and internal process improvements to be delivered in this current parliament, as recommended by the Strategic Defence Review.
Defence is committed to efficiency and ensuring every pound spent on Defence is used in the best way for our Armed Forces and the taxpayer. The Defence Investment Plan, published on 30 June 2026, identifies, in section 4 - Defence Reform and Efficiency, that our total efficiency commitment is £10.7 billion over the period financial year 2026-27 to 2029-30 (inclusive). This includes the £6 billion of new savings committed to in Strategic Defence Review 25 and savings agreed through the Spending Review 2025. The Defence Investment Plan at Table 18 provides a breakdown of this £10.7 billion figure, showing that workforce and resourcing will contribute c£3.3 billion which includes the Strategic Defence Review commitment to at least a 10% reduction in Civil Service workforce costs; and that reform and service redesign will contribute c£1.1 billion. This is backed by an additional £500 million investment as a ring-fenced Transformation Fund - to accelerate productivity enhancing investments.
To ask His Majesty's Government what orders they have placed for the F-35B aircraft; and what is the timescale for placing further orders.
To ask His Majesty's Government what orders they have placed for the F-35B aircraft; and what is the timescale for placing further orders.
I refer the Noble Lady to the answer given to Question 16066 to the hon. Member for South Shropshire (Stuart Anderson) on 13 July 2026 in the House of Commons.
The exact delivery profile and date of F-35 aircraft is subject to negotiation between the UK and multinational Joint Program Office, but the UK anticipates taking delivery of the next batch of F-35 aircraft from the early 2030s.
To ask His Majesty's Government what is the timescale for the ordering of 12 F-35A aircraft.
To ask His Majesty's Government what is the timescale for the ordering of 12 F-35A aircraft.
I refer the Noble Lady to the answer given to Question 16066 to the hon. Member for South Shropshire (Stuart Anderson) on 13 July 2026 in the House of Commons.
The exact delivery profile and date of F-35 aircraft is subject to negotiation between the UK and multinational Joint Program Office, but the UK anticipates taking delivery of the next batch of F-35 aircraft from the early 2030s.
To ask His Majesty's Government why they cancelled the Type 83 destroyer programme; and how much was spent on the Type 83 destroyer programme to date.
To ask His Majesty's Government why they cancelled the Type 83 destroyer programme; and how much was spent on the Type 83 destroyer programme to date.
I refer the noble lady to the answers given in the House of Commons to Questions 9539 and 15397, reproduced below.
The Type 83 Destroyer forms part of a wider Future Air Dominance System (FADS) capability concept, making specific costs for the Type 83 element hard to differentiate from the wider whole. Over the last three financial years, c.£1M has been spent on platform-specific design for the Type 83. This forms part of a c.£6.9M which is the broader notional spend for Type 83 work as a part of FADS.
The role of Maritime Air Defence, currently delivered by Type 45 Destroyers, will be delivered in the future by a mix of crewed Common Combat Vessels and uncrewed, autonomous missile (Type 91) and sensor (Type 94) ships.
The decision to move to this hybrid approach was taken after detailed analysis of current and future threats, including lessons from ongoing conflicts. The specific analysis is necessarily classified, but the mix of crewed and uncrewed systems will produce a more flexible force, with greater missile capacity while also improving mass. The alternative, an expensive, exquisite platform such as the Type 83, would have resulted in too few ships to cover all the Royal Navy’s tasks, increasing risk. Detailed planning for the transition between Type 45 and the Hybrid Navy Maritime Air Defence capability will be undertaken in consultation with industry, which will determine whether a Type 45 extension is implemented. A final decision is not expected until 2027-28.
To ask His Majesty's Government what is the status of the Future Air Defence System, given they have cancelled the Type 83 destroyer programme.
To ask His Majesty's Government what is the status of the Future Air Defence System, given they have cancelled the Type 83 destroyer programme.
I refer the noble lady to the answers given in the House of Commons to Questions 9539 and 15397, reproduced below.
The Type 83 Destroyer forms part of a wider Future Air Dominance System (FADS) capability concept, making specific costs for the Type 83 element hard to differentiate from the wider whole. Over the last three financial years, c.£1M has been spent on platform-specific design for the Type 83. This forms part of a c.£6.9M which is the broader notional spend for Type 83 work as a part of FADS.
The role of Maritime Air Defence, currently delivered by Type 45 Destroyers, will be delivered in the future by a mix of crewed Common Combat Vessels and uncrewed, autonomous missile (Type 91) and sensor (Type 94) ships.
The decision to move to this hybrid approach was taken after detailed analysis of current and future threats, including lessons from ongoing conflicts. The specific analysis is necessarily classified, but the mix of crewed and uncrewed systems will produce a more flexible force, with greater missile capacity while also improving mass. The alternative, an expensive, exquisite platform such as the Type 83, would have resulted in too few ships to cover all the Royal Navy’s tasks, increasing risk. Detailed planning for the transition between Type 45 and the Hybrid Navy Maritime Air Defence capability will be undertaken in consultation with industry, which will determine whether a Type 45 extension is implemented. A final decision is not expected until 2027-28.
To ask His Majesty's Government what are the planned out-of-service dates for the current Typhoon fleet; and whether they plan to purchase any Tranche 4 or Tranche 5 Typhoon fighter aircraft.
To ask His Majesty's Government what are the planned out-of-service dates for the current Typhoon fleet; and whether they plan to purchase any Tranche 4 or Tranche 5 Typhoon fighter aircraft.
The £5.4 billion Typhoon spend detailed in the Defence Investment Plan comprises the planned spend to maintain and upgrade the UK’s Typhoon aircraft and assure their capabilities into the 2040s. It includes radar, communications, and software upgrades, new defensive aids systems, and improvements to weapons systems such as the upgraded helmet mounted sight. There is no plan to purchase additional Typhoon aircraft, but the UK’s mix of 4th and 5th generation combat air platforms ensures the RAF has the breadth of capabilities it needs to respond to our defence requirements.
To ask His Majesty's Government, following the publication of the Defence Investment Plan, (1) how many new Chinooks they will purchase, and (2) when they will purchase them.
To ask His Majesty's Government, following the publication of the Defence Investment Plan, (1) how many new Chinooks they will purchase, and (2) when they will purchase them.
The Defence Investment Plan provides for the recapitalisation of the Chinook fleet through the Chinook Capability Sustainment Programme (CSP). Defence is currently progressing the next phase of this work, known as Chinook CSP Tranche 2, which will replace legacy Chinook aircraft and sustain the United Kingdom's Vertical Heavy Lift capability beyond 2040. This is distinct from Chinook CSP Tranche 1, which is the previously approved procurement of 14 H‑47(ER) aircraft.
Current planning assumptions envisage contractual commitment through the Strategic Defence Review 2030, with deliveries of new Chinook aircraft commencing in the mid-2030s. Initial Operating Capability is expected in the latter part of the 2030s, with further procurement activity supporting the fleet through to at least 2060.
Defence is continuing to refine the requirement and assess options through the programme's assessment phase. The final number of aircraft to be procured, and the associated delivery profile, will be determined through future approvals and force design decisions based on the requirements, threat assessments and the technological changes to have taken place by then.
To ask His Majesty's Government whether the planned purchase of 23 new medium helicopters is the first batch of acquisition or the total number of helicopters to be acquired.
To ask His Majesty's Government whether the planned purchase of 23 new medium helicopters is the first batch of acquisition or the total number of helicopters to be acquired.
The Department’s New Medium Helicopter contract with Leonardo UK is for 23 aircraft and four Flight Simulation Training Devices. There are currently no plans to acquire additional aircraft.
My Lords, this has been an excellent and fascinating debate, with hugely perceptive contributions. I thank my noble friend Lord Harlech not only for securing the debate but for his insightful and powerful contribution, made in a characteristically elegant and gracious manner—which I do not promise to emulate.
The Government’s defence...
My Lords, this has been an excellent and fascinating debate, with hugely perceptive contributions. I thank my noble friend Lord Harlech not only for securing the debate but for his insightful and powerful contribution, made in a characteristically elegant and gracious manner—which I do not promise to emulate.
The Government’s defence...
My Lords, I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, that I would not take when I arrive for a debate as a model for anything. I can say without fear of contradiction that my Whips will endorse that sentiment. I, too, am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Harris...
My Lords, I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, that I would not take when I arrive for a debate as a model for anything. I can say without fear of contradiction that my Whips will endorse that sentiment. I, too, am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Harris...
My Lords, recent events engulfing the SNP with the Murrell conviction crystallise the conflict of interest. The Lord Advocate, Scotland’s independent chief prosecutor, felt able to share information only with her client, the Scottish Government. A chief prosecutor either shares information with everyone or shares it with no one. I am comforted by the response from the Minister, to whom I also extend a welcome to her place. I think she is picking up from this House that there is an overwhelming unease that the duality of this role has run its day and change has to be made.
My Lords, recent events engulfing the SNP with the Murrell conviction crystallise the conflict of interest. The Lord Advocate, Scotland’s independent chief prosecutor, felt able to share information only with her client, the Scottish Government. A chief prosecutor either shares information with everyone or shares it with no one. I am comforted by the response from the Minister, to whom I also extend a welcome to her place. I think she is picking up from this House that there is an overwhelming unease that the duality of this role has run its day and change has to be made.
I pay tribute to the noble Baroness as well, who commands great respect in Scotland across the political divide. Her comments therefore are of great significance. I repeat that I will take that back, because if someone of her standing is making that point, I regard that as significant.
My Lords, I think the noble Lord, Lord Spellar, speaks on behalf of the whole House. The plea he makes is really: can the Government lead by example? Can the Minister explain why the current Secretary of State for Defence recently decided to acquire the precision strike missile, which is an American ballistic missile programme—a course of action which was rejected by previous Defence Secretaries, including John Healey?
My Lords, I think the noble Lord, Lord Spellar, speaks on behalf of the whole House. The plea he makes is really: can the Government lead by example? Can the Minister explain why the current Secretary of State for Defence recently decided to acquire the precision strike missile, which is an American ballistic missile programme—a course of action which was rejected by previous Defence Secretaries, including John Healey?
The noble Baroness has huge experience in this—and as soon as we talk about defence, I have to declare myself as an honorary captain in the Royal Navy. With regard to individual procurement decisions, she knows as well as me that I would not have been involved in the direct procurement, but I can ensure that the Defence Minister writes to her on it. However, let me be clear about what the defence investment plan means for British jobs. There will be an additional 60,000 British jobs because of the investment that this Government chose to make that the previous Government did not.
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Lords second reading. Agreed to on question. Lords motion that the bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House and instruction on order of clauses to be taken. Agreed to on question.
My Lords, it is a pleasure to wind up this debate for His Majesty’s most loyal Opposition. I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Newnham, that I am very pleased to be sitting here and I do not envy the Minister sitting over there. Everything has its moment.
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My Lords, it is a pleasure to wind up this debate for His Majesty’s most loyal Opposition. I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Newnham, that I am very pleased to be sitting here and I do not envy the Minister sitting over there. Everything has its moment.
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My Lords, further to the question from the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, I wonder if there is any work afoot to try to triage cases, because it seems to me that, in some instances, what an employer needs is to have his or her head knocked against the wall, and the employee may deserve the same treatment. Is there somebody at an early stage who can do that?
My Lords, further to the question from the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, I wonder if there is any work afoot to try to triage cases, because it seems to me that, in some instances, what an employer needs is to have his or her head knocked against the wall, and the employee may deserve the same treatment. Is there somebody at an early stage who can do that?
It is partly the role of ACAS to do that kind of thing, but the Department for Business and Trade and the Ministry of Justice, working together across government, have set up the dispute resolution system taskforce. That is to support the Government in considering options to reform the employment dispute system so that it works better for workers and businesses. The taskforce will consist of unions, businesses, legal representatives and third sector organisations. Using all that combined expertise, it will help us find ways of achieving earlier resolution for some of these troubling cases.
My Lords, I thank the Minister for both the briefing and prior sight of the defence investment plan, which he provided to me and my colleague, the noble Earl, Lord Minto, yesterday. I doubt any plan was so dogged by delay and preceded by such drama as this one, but...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for both the briefing and prior sight of the defence investment plan, which he provided to me and my colleague, the noble Earl, Lord Minto, yesterday. I doubt any plan was so dogged by delay and preceded by such drama as this one, but...
My Lords, by common assent, Palantir’s technology has rapidly and dramatically improved the Ministry of Defence’s logistics and operational planning systems without either human rights or reputational risks. Given that the current challenge confronting the MoD is recognised in the SDR, which recommended achieving a 10% efficiency saving by greater use of AI systems, what progress has been made on that objective to date?
My Lords, by common assent, Palantir’s technology has rapidly and dramatically improved the Ministry of Defence’s logistics and operational planning systems without either human rights or reputational risks. Given that the current challenge confronting the MoD is recognised in the SDR, which recommended achieving a 10% efficiency saving by greater use of AI systems, what progress has been made on that objective to date?
The noble Baroness will see in due course some of the ways in which we are taking forward AI, but she is quite right to ask about this. AI is crucial to the future provision for our Armed Forces and to enabling them to have the capability and capacity they need for the conflicts of the future. Palantir is one example of the way in which we seek to take that forward. Other options will be brought forward as part of the defence investment plan. Clearly, AI is the future of much of the technological co-operation that will be needed both within government and with our allies.