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I beg to move,

That this House has considered Ukraine, Middle East, North Africa and security.

This summer has seen a range and scale of threats to international, and particularly European, stability. If they are not unprecedented, they certainly represent a highly unwelcome escalation from the post-cold war norm. Alongside them, there...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 cc913-4
House
House of Commons

I agree with my hon. Friend. There is a qualitative difference between any proposition of air strikes in Syria and such an activity in Iraq. The legal, technical and military differences make the proposition of air strikes an order of magnitude more complicated in Syria.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c914
House
House of Commons

I will take one more intervention.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c914
House
House of Commons

If my hon. Friend will allow me, I will come specifically to the question of air strikes and their authorisation later in my speech.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c914
House
House of Commons

I will take one more intervention and then I must make some progress.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c914
House
House of Commons

When I talked about a military difference between Iraq and Syria, I was referring to the different air defence systems that protect the territory in those two countries. In Iraq, the skies are open over ISIL-controlled territory, whereas in Syria a sophisticated

integrated air defence system protects the whole of...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c914
House
House of Commons

In view of Mr Speaker’s strictures, I must make some progress. I will allow the hon. Lady to intervene later.

Having established a heartland in Syria and advanced into northern Iraq, ISIL is seeking to extend its reach with the openly stated objective of building a so-called caliphate embracing all the...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c915
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and that has been precisely the thrust of a British initiative at the United Nations to cut off financial and other lines of support to ISIL. We will continue to pursue that route.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c915
House
House of Commons

Yes, we are delivering that message and our partners around the world are active. We have seen action over the past few days in many countries, with people providing support networks to ISIL being disrupted, arrests being made and so on.

In seeking to establish its extremist state, ISIL is already...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 cc915-6
House
House of Commons

If I may, I will make a little progress.

Our response to that threat is and will remain measured, deliberate and comprehensive. At home, our police and security agencies are hard at work tackling the threat from returning jihadis and intercepting those intent on travelling abroad to join ISIL. Since April...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c916
House
House of Commons

The UK has already supplied non-lethal aid to the peshmerga. We have transported ammunition from eastern Europe for the Soviet-era weapons that the peshmerga have. Yesterday my right hon. Friend the Defence Secretary laid a departmental minute before the House announcing the initial gifting of lethal aid to the peshmerga...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c917
House
House of Commons

The point the Prime Minister was making was that we must reserve our right to intervene at very short notice if an imminent humanitarian catastrophe threatens, but we are also considering the longer-term proposition of how, in coalition with international partners, we can best rise to the challenge presented by...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c917
House
House of Commons

I must make some progress.

In Syria, we continue to support a negotiated political transition to end Assad’s brutal rule and pave the way to a political solution to this appalling conflict. To those who ask whether we should make common cause with Assad against the new enemy, ISIL, I say...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c917
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. We are clear that ISIL is a threat to us as well as to stability in the region. But we are equally clear that we can contribute to defeating ISIL only through the leadership of the Iraqi Government in Baghdad, and they have to...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c918
House
House of Commons

Those around the Assad regime understand very well what they have to do to make progress: they have to remove Assad from his leadership role and replace him in order that we and the moderate opposition in Syria have someone credible that they can talk to.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c918
House
House of Commons

Our decision at the moment is that we will continue to supply non-lethal aid to the Syrian moderate opposition. Of course, we keep that decision under continuous review. As I said earlier, the situation in Syria is very different from the situation in Iraq. While ISIL is seeking to make...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 cc918-9
House
House of Commons

Our clear intention is to create the conditions where within the Alawite community and the community around the regime, the pressure builds to change the leadership—to remove Assad and those closely associated with him and replace them so that it is possible for the moderate opposition forces and the international...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c919
House
House of Commons

I too read the reports that my hon. Friend mentions. Clearly, those who have committed terrorist acts must be held accountable for their actions; there can be no general amnesty. Obviously, the Home Secretary will want to look carefully at the situation that we are facing. I suggest that she...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c919
House
House of Commons

I will give way once more at this stage.

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c919
House
House of Commons

I recognise my hon. Friend’s gentle scepticism, shall I call it? Many figures within the newly announced Government are not new faces. However, the programme set out by Dr al-Abadi does represent, on the face of it, an approach that is far more inclusive and far more willing to recognise...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 September 2014
Reference
585 c920
House
House of Commons