To ask His Majesty's Government what discussions, if any, they have had with the Welsh Government since 7 May regarding (1) proposals to abolish Police and Crime Commissioners, and (2) any possibility of the Senedd Cymru taking over responsibility for some or all of Police and Commissioners' responsibilities in Wales.

To ask His Majesty's Government what discussions, if any, they have had with the Welsh Government since 7 May regarding (1) proposals to abolish Police and Crime Commissioners, and (2) any possibility of the Senedd Cymru taking over responsibility for some or all of Police and Commissioners' responsibilities in Wales.

Lords report stage fifth day. Amendment 394 disagreed to on division (44 to 153). Amendments 395 to 397 agreed to. (Part 2 of 2).

Lords report stage fifth day. Amendment 394 disagreed to on division (44 to 153). Amendments 395 to 397 agreed to. (Part 2 of 2).

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for her amendment. I say at the outset that she has a point: the process by which police and crime commissioners may suspend a chief constable should be looked at.

The noble Baroness has suggested that His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for her amendment. I say at the outset that she has a point: the process by which police and crime commissioners may suspend a chief constable should be looked at.

The noble Baroness has suggested that His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and...

I hope she can recover from that shock. I ask her to look at paragraph 134 of the White Paper, From Local to National: A New Model for Policing, which we published on 26 January. It says:

“We will reform the process for the appointment, suspension and dismissal of Chief Constables...

I hope she can recover from that shock. I ask her to look at paragraph 134 of the White Paper, From Local to National: A New Model for Policing, which we published on 26 January. It says:

“We will reform the process for the appointment, suspension and dismissal of Chief Constables...

Moved by

Lord Hanson of Flint

395: Clause 179, page 231, line 37, at end insert—

““law enforcement employer” has the meaning given by section 174(1);”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment applies the definition of “law enforcement employer” in clause 174 to all of clauses 173 to 178.

395A: Before Schedule 21, insert the following new...

Moved by

Lord Hanson of Flint

395: Clause 179, page 231, line 37, at end insert—

““law enforcement employer” has the meaning given by section 174(1);”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment applies the definition of “law enforcement employer” in clause 174 to all of clauses 173 to 178.

395A: Before Schedule 21, insert the following new...

Moved by

Lord Hanson of Flint

396: Schedule 21, page 467, line 28, leave out “or Condition 2”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment removes a requirement to add civilian employees to the Civil Nuclear Constabulary and British Transport Police advisory lists, where allegations are made against them after they resign or retire. This reflects...

Moved by

Lord Hanson of Flint

396: Schedule 21, page 467, line 28, leave out “or Condition 2”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment removes a requirement to add civilian employees to the Civil Nuclear Constabulary and British Transport Police advisory lists, where allegations are made against them after they resign or retire. This reflects...

We are here again. I do not expect the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, to understand why I am not going to change my position. There is a

view that, for all the reasons that have been given, equality is extremely important for a public sector body. I did not disagree...

We are here again. I do not expect the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, to understand why I am not going to change my position. There is a

view that, for all the reasons that have been given, equality is extremely important for a public sector body. I did not disagree...

I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Bailey of Paddington and Lord Hogan-Howe, for tabling the amendments in this group. I am

conscious of the fact that the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, and the noble Lord, Lord Davies, supported the amendment’s general direction of travel.

First, I say to the...

I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Bailey of Paddington and Lord Hogan-Howe, for tabling the amendments in this group. I am

conscious of the fact that the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, and the noble Lord, Lord Davies, supported the amendment’s general direction of travel.

First, I say to the...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes, for returning to the issue on Report. We find ourselves in a very strange situation today where the noble Baroness who moved the amendment resides in Wales, the shadow Minister was a former Member of Parliament in Wales and...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes, for returning to the issue on Report. We find ourselves in a very strange situation today where the noble Baroness who moved the amendment resides in Wales, the shadow Minister was a former Member of Parliament in Wales and...

I fully do. The review that is being undertaken of force sizes throughout the whole of England and Wales will commence very shortly. The terms of reference, if they are not public already, will be very shortly. The input of the Senedd, the political parties, the current Administration and, potentially,...

I fully do. The review that is being undertaken of force sizes throughout the whole of England and Wales will commence very shortly. The terms of reference, if they are not public already, will be very shortly. The input of the Senedd, the political parties, the current Administration and, potentially,...

I cannot give the noble Baroness a timeline or a commentary on that discussion, but what I can say, as I have said already, is that work is under way. This Government were elected for a five-year Parliament and work is under way—that is what I can say today. She...

I cannot give the noble Baroness a timeline or a commentary on that discussion, but what I can say, as I have said already, is that work is under way. This Government were elected for a five-year Parliament and work is under way—that is what I can say today. She...

Lords committee stage twelfth day. Clauses 152 to 164 agreed to. Schedule 19 agreed to. Clause 165 agreed to. Clause 166, as amended, agreed to.

Lords committee stage twelfth day. Clauses 152 to 164 agreed to. Schedule 19 agreed to. Clause 165 agreed to. Clause 166, as amended, agreed to.

I am grateful to the Committee, and in particular to the noble Lord, Lord Hogan-Howe, for moving the amendment. To be fair to the noble Lord, Lord Bailey of Paddington, he stayed here very late—until the end—on the previous day on this. I am sorry that he is not able...

I am grateful to the Committee, and in particular to the noble Lord, Lord Hogan-Howe, for moving the amendment. To be fair to the noble Lord, Lord Bailey of Paddington, he stayed here very late—until the end—on the previous day on this. I am sorry that he is not able...

Moved by

Lord Hanson of Flint

424: Clause 166, page 204, leave out lines 15 to 20

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment removes provision that is no longer needed because of the general data protection override in section 183A of the Data Protection Act 2018, which was inserted by section 106(2) of the Data...

Moved by

Lord Hanson of Flint

424: Clause 166, page 204, leave out lines 15 to 20

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment removes provision that is no longer needed because of the general data protection override in section 183A of the Data Protection Act 2018, which was inserted by section 106(2) of the Data...

My noble friend Lady Chakrabarti indicated that this was a probing amendment and I am grateful for the opportunity to discuss these points.

I start by saying to the noble Baronesses, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb and Lady Doocey, and my noble friend that this Labour Government are committed to making improvements...

My noble friend Lady Chakrabarti indicated that this was a probing amendment and I am grateful for the opportunity to discuss these points.

I start by saying to the noble Baronesses, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb and Lady Doocey, and my noble friend that this Labour Government are committed to making improvements...

As I just said, it can be done in court in front of a judge on appeal. The decisions are taken by the police and crime commissioner and/or the Home Secretary, who is accountable for those matters, and the Government intend to hold to that position. It may not satisfy...

As I just said, it can be done in court in front of a judge on appeal. The decisions are taken by the police and crime commissioner and/or the Home Secretary, who is accountable for those matters, and the Government intend to hold to that position. It may not satisfy...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for raising these issues. I know she feels strongly about them. We have an interchangeable Front Bench here between the noble Baronesses, Lady Doocey and Lady Brinton. It is always of interest to me that we have a good dual ability...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for raising these issues. I know she feels strongly about them. We have an interchangeable Front Bench here between the noble Baronesses, Lady Doocey and Lady Brinton. It is always of interest to me that we have a good dual ability...

It is important to do that, but I also say to the noble Baroness that the police are not mental health experts, nor should we expect them to be. At the end of the day, they will be the first responders who have to identify and support people. The work...

It is important to do that, but I also say to the noble Baroness that the police are not mental health experts, nor should we expect them to be. At the end of the day, they will be the first responders who have to identify and support people. The work...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for her amendments. I start, however, with the noble Lord, Lord Sandhurst, who prayed in aid the great Conservative, as he said, Robert Peel. From my recollection, Robert Peel was certainly not in charge of the police force during the 14...

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for her amendments. I start, however, with the noble Lord, Lord Sandhurst, who prayed in aid the great Conservative, as he said, Robert Peel. From my recollection, Robert Peel was certainly not in charge of the police force during the 14...

The Government work closely with the Police Federation and will always listen and gauge the situation with them. I have met the chair of the Police Federation on a number of occasions, and other Ministers in government do the same. We will engage with that body. Like other federations or...

The Government work closely with the Police Federation and will always listen and gauge the situation with them. I have met the chair of the Police Federation on a number of occasions, and other Ministers in government do the same. We will engage with that body. Like other federations or...